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Warped qtr panels

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by bestrada11, Aug 12, 2007.

  1. bestrada11
    Joined: Mar 29, 2007
    Posts: 62

    bestrada11
    Member
    from new mex

    Im fuct... it took my 61 lincoln to the sand blaster to blast the trunk floor and cabin floor to expose all the rust holes and while they did that they thought they would do me a favor and blast the inside of the qtr panels exposed in the trunk and it put a wave into them. My understanding is that the compressive forces of the sand actually stretched the side of the metal that the sand was hitting and not the other side?? Is this right and how do i fix? i dont want filler allll up on my **** like that.....
     
  2. Shrinking disc. Do a search on the board. I saved a roof on a Impalla that had the same problem
     
  3. 49ratfink
    Joined: Feb 8, 2004
    Posts: 24,956

    49ratfink
    Member
    from California

    I always thought it was heat? but what do I know.

    hitting metal seems like it would shrink.. but I'm just guessing. want to make it a 2 door? I got a 67 lincoln 2 door I may be parting out.
     
  4. pimpin paint
    Joined: May 31, 2005
    Posts: 4,937

    pimpin paint
    Member
    from so cal

    Hey,

    Sometimes a sandblaster can do more damage than good! looks
    like this is one of those times.

    The use of a very low crowned dolly and a ******* will correct much
    of this damage. You may well have to put some shrinks, either with
    a torch , hammer and dolly or a shrinking disc, into the high areas of
    the repair to return the panel to normal conture (straight). Go very
    carefuly with the shrinking process, as this era of Lincoln has very
    little crown in any of its' panels, and thus is really easy to over
    stretch those panels causing an even bigger problem!
     
  5. bestrada11
    Joined: Mar 29, 2007
    Posts: 62

    bestrada11
    Member
    from new mex

    Sorry gents, i was gone for a while.. ill give the shrinking disk a try but part of the problem is tucked up above the wheel well inbetween it and the qtr im not sure the disk and grinder will fit up in there.... and correct me if im wrong but i have to shrink from the blasted side right??? if not im golden cause i can do it from the other side but not sure? should i try the flame method?? what about just using a TIG machine with no filler to just arc small circular spots going from center-out in a clockwise motion. or would a torch be better?? thanks in advace for the advice...
     
  6. Nicholson
    Joined: Aug 9, 2006
    Posts: 169

    Nicholson

    No, you don't have to shrink from the side that was blasted.
    I have never used a TIG to shrink....it might work but a torch or shrinking disc is very controllable. When shrinking with a torch it's best to do small shrinks. I would start out heating the red area no larger than 1/4". Watch carefully to what happens and how the metal moves once it cools. You don't have to use a circular motion for small shrinks, just slowly move the torch toward the panel until the torch almost touches, then you either need to hammer and dolly, quench with water or have an air blower and quickly cool it.
    I agree with pimpin paint....go very slow on a low crown panel.
     
  7. pimpin paint
    Joined: May 31, 2005
    Posts: 4,937

    pimpin paint
    Member
    from so cal

    Hey,

    The first rule of shrinking is to make damn sure that the metal you
    are trying to shrink is actually stretched, and not just misplaced!

    I can't tell because I haven't seen the damage to the panel, but
    I would start by bumping/roughing the damage into normal conture,
    with a hammer, dolly and or s****, until I was sure that the metal
    was actually stretched/high. If you attempt to shrink an area that
    isn't really stretched (false stretch), you'll run the risk of creating
    even more damage to the panel. This happens because your ask-
    ing metal, that is of normal thickness to travel into an area of the
    panel that is still of normal thickness, just misplaced i.e. a false
    stretch. A true stretch is an area of the panel that has become
    thinner than the surounding metal, the normal thickness of the
    metal surounding the stretch won't allow the metal to travel, and
    the metal thus pops out, or in your case in. Rough the damage out
    first ,than and only than, shrink as necessary.
    You may want to look into one of those stud welding guns, sold
    by body shop suppliers to use for those areas, deep up into those
    quarters where you can't get behind to bump out the damage.
    Most of these guns also have a shrinking tip.

    good luck-

    S****ey Devils C.C.
     
  8. bestrada11
    Joined: Mar 29, 2007
    Posts: 62

    bestrada11
    Member
    from new mex

    When bumping this panel back out do i start in the center and then work my way around the perimiter of the hign / low spot?? this is the scenario.... on the rear qtr there are two low spots that seem like they are drawn in toward the trunk where the sand blasted them i can place my palm on them from the inside and push them smooth but they are drawn back to their low state.... ill try to take pics and post but it is such a hard thing to see since the panel is fairly flat to start off with..
     

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