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Garage Question, Lifts ?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by choppedsled, Sep 1, 2007.

  1. choppedsled
    Joined: Jun 2, 2007
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    choppedsled
    Member
    from Spokane WA

    Hello, I visit the garage journal site a bunch but really think I'll get better opinions and advice over here. I just built a new shop at home and am shopping for a lift. I was set on a two post model but have heard some strong reasons for a four post unit from some autobody friends I have. So what do you use and recommend for home shop use for hot rod fabrication and repair? Like I said it will be low volume work of a great variety. With my new shop I plan on doing my first full on build, ch***is and all. Thanks in advance!
     
  2. zman
    Joined: Apr 2, 2001
    Posts: 16,790

    zman
    Member
    from Garner, NC

    If I can have only one it's gonna be a two post. Find the local supplier for Rotary lifts and see if they have any used ones. I'll take a used Rotary over any import any day. If all you're doing is autobody then a 4 post could be nice, but there are quite a few things that a two post is ideal for.
     
  3. 32v
    Joined: May 20, 2007
    Posts: 952

    32v
    Member
    from v.i.

    i wouldnt have a 2 post you cant swing the feet under a low car i have a 4 post it rolls around and i have 2 air jacks that slide full lengh best thing i ever bought..also my frame jig mnts to it so when i'm welding i can raise or lower where i want it
     
  4. zman
    Joined: Apr 2, 2001
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    zman
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    from Garner, NC

    I have a rotary 2 post, I have 4 little platforms to get under super low cars, no problem, and when the car is lifted the entire undercarrige is open. You can't say that with a 4 post regardless of your jacks or not. And sorry to say any 4 post that is on wheels to roll around is to light duty for my tastes. I can get a '49 Caddy he**** up on mine with no sweat, I'd question doing that on a hobbyist 4 post lift, and if it has wheels that's what it is...
     
  5. phat rat
    Joined: Mar 18, 2001
    Posts: 5,089

    phat rat
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    one thing to be aware of if you go with a 2 post be sure your floor is thick enough to support it. I can't remember for sure but I think the recommended minimum is around 8" thick
     
  6. buffaloracer
    Joined: Aug 22, 2004
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    buffaloracer
    Member
    from kansas

    I went for the four post with a sliding bridge. Use it as a ch***is jig as well as a lift.
     
  7. dixiedog
    Joined: Mar 20, 2002
    Posts: 1,204

    dixiedog
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    When I built my shop I poured the floor 12" thick with 2 #5 rebar for a 2 post lift. The manufacturers say 4" is fine (do to the large base plate), just make sure you use a good epoxy and blow out the drill holes before you epoxy in your anchor bolts, DO NOT USE WEDGE ANCHORS they can loosen and a more likely to blow out the concrete

    I did a lot of research and thought the 2 post would be the best since you got full access under neath. When I was a mechanic my bay had a single post and it was pretty much useless for exhaust jobs but I was front end tech so it worked fine.

    Just make sure your car is balanced and the locks are out before you go under.
     
  8. GassersGarage
    Joined: Jul 1, 2007
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    GassersGarage
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    Just one recommendation. Check around for someone that demos old gas stations. They usually have a lift or 2 hanging around. You may pick one up cheap. Friend of mine demo'd stations as a side job.
     
  9. 5window
    Joined: Jan 29, 2005
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    5window
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    I've been looking for a long time. I am pretty much convinced,though I have no personal experience, that I would most like to have atwo post,asymetric lift. I've been to several garage auctions, but the prices usually show the excitement of bidding wars. Plus,you have to wonder if a really good lift that has been up and down dozens of times day for many years is going to need some expensive rebuild. I 'll probably end up with on of the better quality,foreign lifts.
     
  10. had an argument about this with a worker the other day we decided a two post is okay but no matter what i still go for drive over pit!-
    I HAVE BEEN IN A SHED when a four poster dropped a big 4x4, it bounced sideways through the posts and into the side of a truck it is not pretty!
     
  11. 59 brook
    Joined: Jun 12, 2005
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    59 brook
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    had a commercial grade 9000lb lift bought it used off a guy for $900. dragged it home alone set it up using my engine hoist rebuilt the cylinders (just a simple oring) used it on all kinds of cars lowered cars need to drive up on a 4" x 10" block to make it easy.I had a professional mechanic drop my truck off a lift and bend the ch***is on a 2 post. now that i have more than 1 project car i need to stack them at night to store them and the 4 post is way easier for that.my import 4 post has lifted my expedition with no problems and my 59 chevy wagon get's parked on it for months at a time. The 2 post is def easier to work on the car.
     
  12. choppedsled
    Joined: Jun 2, 2007
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    choppedsled
    Member
    from Spokane WA

    It's clear there are two sides to who likes what over here just like at the garage journal site. I like the open room you have with a two post lift, but worry about being able to really muscle a project around on it. The LAST thing I want is a car to fall off it and I have seen that with a two post twice in a professional shop.
     
  13. Hemi325
    Joined: Aug 15, 2006
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    Hemi325
    Member
    from Boerne, TX

    Choppedsled, when those cars fell off the two post lift, what was the cause? I hear the problem is "usually" the car not being clear of obstruction, and when it's taken up or let down it catches and tips off the lift.
     
  14. zman
    Joined: Apr 2, 2001
    Posts: 16,790

    zman
    Member
    from Garner, NC

    Usually if it's a quality lift like a Rotary it's operator error. The only problems I've ever seen that were the lift failing were cheap import lifts.
     
  15. dixiedog
    Joined: Mar 20, 2002
    Posts: 1,204

    dixiedog
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    One problem with a 2 post is the ability to open the door and get in and out of. Esp. when you have a little extra bagagge like me:rolleyes:
     
  16. choppedsled
    Joined: Jun 2, 2007
    Posts: 301

    choppedsled
    Member
    from Spokane WA

    I'd be willing to say both instances were the fault of the mechanic's using the lift. One of the units was a Rotary with a one ton dump bed on it. It went over forward, I don't know what the cause was, and L&I is doing an investigation into it. The second looked like it slipped off the pads on the p*** side and ended up holding the car up by the bottom of the door etc. I don't think for a minute that either lift was at fault, just that there may be a lot more room for error witth a two post if you arn't real carefull. That being said I'm still leaning toward a two post, just value the opinions on here before I buy.
     
  17. denis4x4
    Joined: Apr 23, 2005
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    denis4x4
    ALLIANCE MEMBER
    from Colorado

    If you opt for a 4 post, go with Backyard Buddy. I wouldn't let my dog lay under some of the Chinese **** out there. My BB has given me flawless service for six years.
     

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