I came upon a 302 Ford motor with Fuel Injection for a small price. I'm considering putting it and the five speed in my 46 coupe. I was going to go with Olds power, but this deal came up and I really like the idea of the five speed. any pro's or con.
Is it a Mustang roller motor???? Yank the FI off, stick on a Edelbrock Airgap with a 750 holley. It will get as good a mileage and run better. A 66 mustang 3 row rad will fit great. I like the look of the Olds, but the 302 will be more trouble free and get better mileage.
You'll likely need to change your 5-speed tailhousing to one from an S10 with a more forward position... Other issue is clutch - late-model T5 use cable-actuated clutch - you'll be sorting out something else in all likelihood... Otherwise, only other potential issues is SBF can be longer than typical SBC, so might have fan/radiator interference requiring an electric fan... Measure carefully, but it can be done w/o too much difficulty.
Car Craft took a 90,000 mile 1990 5.0 HO and put in fresh rings and bearings, and rebuilt the stock heads to OEM specs. They dropped the EFI and added a Weiand Stealth intake and a Holley 670. It was all stock with the intake and carb. On the dyno it made 278 hp at 5,200 rpm and 315 lb-ft of torque at 4,100 rpm. Here the link to the article.... http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles/116_0111_build_your_engine/index.html A nice companion to that one is the 405 hp on the OE roller cam build. Scary simple. http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles/116_0307_ford_302_v8_engine_buildup/index.html
I have run SBF engines in a lot of different cars ( but never with a 5spd),.. they have always worked good for me. However the pulley's and the front of the engine can sometimes be a challenge. Lots of pulley combinations and sometimes reverse flow water pumps,... But they are worth sorting this stuff out.
God forbid he put something DIFFERENT in HIS car, instead of following the herd and going with a SBC. I bleed Ford blue! I'll be putting a Ford 351C in a '30 Ford coupe, with a Ford WC T-5, and a Ford 9" posi rearend. Gonna run a Ford radiator, brakes, front axle,......well, basically the whole fuckin car will be Ford parts. God, I LOVE FORDS!!!!
efi all the way, i run an efi 5.0 in a 64 galaxie that i drive every day. i got one in my 46 ford and have a gt40 ready to go in my 51 mercury build. all installed with parts from donor cars or boneyard. i can do a complete install for about 300.00 motor and trans included. give me a pm if interested in some info to do it efi.
If ever I can get back to this, (to many projects for other guys,... and myself, this one keeps getting put back just one more on the list,.. based on current calculations, I should be able to get going on this one again 4 years after I'm dead) this was going to be the daily driver to replace the last one, 351W with a C-6,... everything is either hand fabed or FO-MO-CO. So far the cost sheet is under 4K., now all I have to do is come up with the hardest thing, Time, (BTW, this car grew right there, there was no room in the garage, so it was built right where you see it, outside next to the house) The last picture is the car this one was going to replace, it had a 302/Automatic.
Oldspert, Do you have everything with the engine; pulleys, brackets, bell housing etc? All the small stuff for a Ford adds up if you have to round it up. What kind of a front end do you have? Stock or MII? Got to consider crossmember oil pan clearence with Winsor motors being front sump. I installed a 351W in my 46 with a 5 speed Tremec. If I had to do it over again, I would start with a complete engine. The engine could have went back further to permit mech fan, but then it would have meant more modification to the x member then I wanted to do.
I'm stripping everything from an 89 Mustang GT convert. Have everything I'll need as far as pulley's, pumps, alt, AC comp, everything. Even have the stock computer. I'm still having back thoughts about not putting my Olds in the car. I can adapt the T5 to my olds engine and not run EFI, unless I add EFI to my olds. It's not impossible to do. I'll use the Ford MAF as well as the injectors and weld bungs into my Olds aluminum intake.
Keep the EFI it will blow their minds when nyou open the hood!!! I put the same motor (and AOD trans) in my '54 Lincoln Capri, and it still has the EFI. I used a Ford truck gas tank turned sideways so I still have the fuel pump in the tank. The make adapters so you can run new fuel lines right up to the Ford quick disconnects. O2 sensors are easy, most muffler shops have 'em. It'll be just a bit different from everybody else!
The Olds engine would certainly increase the cool factor. Mine is still under construction. Paint is done and in a couple of months I should be tooling down the road.
So does the fuel pump sit sideways? I'm running an external pump but considering internal in my 57 Fairlane, I don't know what tank other than stock would fit without trunk butchery. Who makes the adapters for the quick connects? Thanks...
ford in a ford is the only way i run ive got a ford in my sedan i put a efi 5.0 in my dads a and i got one in my grandpas 53 f-100 but i bleed blue also but the efi gets about 20 miles to the gallon easy and my 302 in my sedan gets around 14 to 15 with a 600 edelbroke so you make the decision
Here's a pair on eBay now: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/UPR-...ryZ33554QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I'm usually all for a Ford in a Ford, but the EFI is butt ugly, and the Olds motor is still cooler than a SBF. I'd drop that in.
Do it! If mine did not have a new SBC in it when I bought it that is what I would have done. It is not easy, but if it were everyone would be building cars.
The only reason not to put the 302 in is if the suspension you have (or want to end up with) won't allow the 302 to clear. I have a 331 stroker 302 in my 31 (my avatar, it's a before picture) with the T5 from a '92 Mustang. Beautiful combination (functionally at least, I'm worikin' on the eye candy). FWIW I have a Hays 95-201 clutch set in mine (on a 12 Lb SFI certified aluminum flywheel) and it is the smoothest performance clutch I have ever come across. The light wheel might not be the best idea in yours, but I am used to 'no flywheel' setups. If you decide to go hydraulic there is a kit out there that uses a push cylinder (on what you have already) with a bracket that attaches to the side of the gear case. I can't remember who makes it right now. That might be easier than getting a hydraulic throw out bearing.
First I guess we are all assuming that you have an early Olds engine, not the late style. Is that the case? The SBF into the `46 Ford is not hard. I don't think you'll find that engine length will be a problem either. Everything that comes with the engine will work fine so long as you don't mind serpantine belts. An untapped source for simple Ford Vee belt pullies ands brackets are the Ford marine engines. Ford built tons of `em and though they're pretty much out of the marine business now the replacement parts were still available last time I checked. These make for simple mathing V pulley sets if you happen to need them. FWIW the SBF will make you a happy man when you "step down on her"
I have 3 302's in 3 Fords. One is my model A coupe; 5.0 roller with 600 Holley C4 . I got 18 MPG on a recent trip to the Rockabilly Hot rod show in Fredericksville,va.. Ran flawlesly. The second is my '65 Cyclone, fuel injected 5.0 crate engine. Currently has C4; will be going to T5 in spring. The 3rd is my wifes '66 Mustang coupe. It also has a 5.0 roller motor,out of my ex 92 Mustang ,with stock 2 BBL Autolite, C4. Also runs great. As you may guess from my user name , I dig Fords. There are issues with front timing covers,oil pans, flywheel and harmonic balancer unbalance weights, etc. but well worth the hassle.
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