Aztec paint question

I was thinking about painting my car the way I envision the Aztec looking. Amber golden with what I would guess would be multiple coats of clear with toner in it? I also think doing that would lead to color inconsitencies. Is there a way to achieve a look where you could actually see depth of color? Kinda like when light hits oil based finished hardwood floors...theres that amber/orangy look that just looks so cool. I dont like DBU cause all I ever see is a reflection and not color. Any comments are appreciated just to get my mind working. Thanks

 

What you describe has always been the idea behind candy colors. Color inconsistencies have always been the problem with candy colors.
I am old and stupid, so I have no idea what DBU means, maybe something about Urethane. I hate cutesy abbreviations. The current cost of paint makes the decisions very costly unless you know exactly what you want and how to get it.

 

ya your right about cost..DBU refers to that Deltron base coat/clear coat system easy to work with but just looks weird cause I all you see is reflection..I love the way regular deltron and glaseruit (sp?) single stage looks...just want something cooler...I realize that its kinda a candy process, but I would think in 2007 there is something that simulates the look...sorry about the abreviations, I just ***ume everyone is thinking the same as me...thank god they arent.

 

I've noted some great effects with a little bit of something just in the early coats of clear, the later coats with out.

When spraying candies, consistency is paramount!

 

In my opinion, the newer paints, are like short cuts to the way it used to be. Original candies with the original clears, were literally coat after coat with sanding in between. Now it is controlled by millimeters and strict measuring.

 

Speaking of short cuts, HOK offers a Kandy Basecaost line. A normal basecoat that has all the qualities of a normal basecoat, but is supposed to give the deth of a kandy job.

Try some different clears as well. I noticed your seem into the PPG line. I personally use DBC, but to each their own. I don't know what clear you are using, I use DC4000. A little extra cash, but yields a deeper finish. I know the look you are striving for and cheaper clears don't seem to get it.

 

use DBC 500 DELTRON BASE COAT INTERMIX CLEAR AD SOME TONER TO IT DEPENDS ON THE COLOR YOU LIKE TO ACHIVE FOR A GOLD YOU MAY LIKE TO USE DMD 623 OR DMD 671 USE A MIX OF 100 TO 1 AND GO FROM THERE IT A LOT EASIER THE YOUR KANDYES NEED MORE INFO SEND ME AN EMAIL OK

 

That House of Kolor Basecoat line referred too, is the alternate to old way and looks great. It's not catalized and is way more consistant in color. Get a HoK paint chip book ,take out in the sun and bend the chips a little to see the final effect. Ther'es plenty of combinations of candy over pearl or metallic bases to get your Aztek Gold.

 

You guys have got it all wrong...the HOK basecoat candies are exactly what you DON'T want to use! That is what gives paint the shiny but "flat"...lack of depth of color, that both the old lacquers used to give, and the candies give...though I believe the old lacquer candies looked better that the new urethanes.
Candy is an extremely difficult paint to shoot, not for a beginner. I've seen MANY candy jobs that had striping, blotches, and dark/light areas. And it not something you can correct with some more paint...it must be taken back to the base color and started over! A waste of $500 to $1000 worth of paint! For the paint to look even, you have to put on every single coat exactly perfect. Same distance away form the panels, same speed, same angle, exact same overlap, every square inch! So your painting technique has to be dead on perfect, for every candy coat. Your gun has to be very good as well..perfect atomization all the time, no spits, dry spots, or uneven coverage.
Base and clears are not critical, though bases must be put on without any imperfections, as they will be magnified in the candy.
As for the Aztec, I painted about 50 resin models of it, for Vic Collins, model builder extrordinaire. This is right before the Aztec was actuall finished. I looked at the old color shots of it, and came up with a candy formula that we painted the models with, and it actually matched the car very well. I don't know if I wrote down the formula, I always do for cars, but I can look. It DID have a bunch of candy gold, some tangerine, and candy red in it. I use HOK candy concentrates to mix my own candies, BTW.