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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by atomickustom, Sep 24, 2007.

  1. atomickustom
    Joined: Aug 30, 2005
    Posts: 3,407

    atomickustom
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    If I'm going to beat a flat sheet of metal into a dished shape, is there any particular reason to use a flat hammer and a curved dolly or form, as opposed to using a rounded hammer and a flat surface?
    I have always used a high-crown hammer and a flat beating surface (anvil, plank of hard wood, etc.) to raise the center in a flat panel. The edges of the panel curve up toward me as I work the metal into shape.
    But I've noticed that when I see guys beating metal on TV they seem to use methods that involved a high-crown dolly or form and a low-crown hammer. Planishing hammers and english wheels work this way. The edges curve down away from them as they work the metal.
    Is there a particular reason to use one method vs. the other?
     
  2. Sealed Power
    Joined: Mar 11, 2005
    Posts: 627

    Sealed Power
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    from TN

    A lot of guys on here know more about metal working than me and I'm sure they will chime in.

    The main difference that I see is that it's a easier to hammer it down over a form. You don't have the edges curving up and getting in the way of your hammer. If you hammer it over a form the edges curve down out of the way.

    Not a big deal unless the piece is pretty deep. I'm sure some of the other guys can offer more reasons.
     
  3. carcrazy1
    Joined: Sep 23, 2007
    Posts: 19

    carcrazy1
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    from Joplin Mo.

    I,ve done it both ways - I have my helve hammer setup so it curls the piece up as I shape it and my planishing hammer curls down as it works so at least to me it makes no difference . I'm sure there are some purist out there that will set me straight though .
    One trick I use to crown small pieces is to pound it over a thick sheet of lead works great, better than a bag for small stuff .
    I'm a Joplinite too so let me know if you need any help I've beeen bending tin for years . PM me for contact number
     
  4. pitman
    Joined: May 14, 2006
    Posts: 5,148

    pitman

    We had a hailstorm here this past spring. It left many cars looking like someone went after them w/a ballpeen hammer. My guess is that using a curved dolly surface allows adjacent "hits" to overlap easily.
    It is always a skilled hit w/a curved hammer, that does not leave an edge mark. The edge mark would be a sharp change in workhardening if it was even accidentally carried out. Perhaps the curved dolly makes for a more gradual deformation and shape-ing.
     

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