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Poor guy I wish I had a fire extinguisher...

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by First On Race Day, Sep 24, 2007.

  1. Rich Rogers
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    same thing happened to me with a 400 poncho, fuel line broke at the carb and filled the intake valleys with gas and poof.Lucky for me I had a fresh 24 oz. coffe to throw on it
     
  2. When i was a teenager i went to a shop in Stockton and said "i want an electric fuel pump" They sold me the pump and i went home and installed it took it on a test drive with my buddies and my 40oz Bud in my lap the car stalls and catches on fire (my 65 conv. mustang family hierloom) HOLY SHIT! We are in the middle of nowhere I take my shirt off stick it in the carb nothing...poor my 40 on my shirt and all over the motor.... nothing thank god for the old man driving by with an extinguisher!! Oh and the pump was electric...fuel injection pushin 80 psi!!!
     
  3. MotorBike Mike
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    HAHAHAHA Thats the best shit i've heard all day

    Mike
     
  4. Da Injun
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    A couple of years ago, I was getting an extremely late start attending the Hot Rod Nationals in Bowling Green on Saturday afternoon in 2005 (driving from Cincinnati). I remember seeing a 55 Ford (as I recall) burnt up from the rear of the car...the deck lid was popped open and it was sitting on the side of Interstate 65. Passing by at speed I thought I was seeing things. No one around waiting for a tow. I just don't know why they would have left the car, it appeared that it happened well before I went by it.
     
  5. Von Rigg Fink
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    Plan9 The indication i gave was a Carb backfire Fire..think of it this way if your carb burps a flame and you shut it down its gonna burn..where is burning aceptable in your motor..Inside..by flooring it you suck the flame into ...where else the combustion chamber hence the logic..trust me as a pilot they have thought thru all the senarios you could think of..and yes this was ment as a start up so no your not flying and you are on the ramp so..you dont have to grow wings or anything crazy like that..
     
  6. Von Rigg Fink
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    oh and BTW this was for a carb backfire not a busted fuel hose there is a significant difference in proceedures..
     
  7. Here's what you want for an electric fuel pump setup.
    (1st pic.)

    The little silver can with the blue anodized fitting and a couple of wires.

    It's a Stewart-Warner oil pressure safety switch.
    Three terminals, NO, NC & common. (Normally Open, Normally Closed.)

    Engine quits or gets shut off, oil pressure drops, power to the fuel pump gets killed.


    I like a separate toggle fed from the ignition switch so you can run the carb floats empty when you want.
    You'll need an NO primer button for the times the carb floats are low or empty


    You can also use the safety switches inline with the ignition circuit so as to cut the engine off when oil pressure is low.
    That will require a bypass NO button or spring loaded toggle so you can bypass the safety switch and start the car.


    2nd pic shows a Ford style pushbutton two terminal NO push button switch which makes a nice primer button.


    Take note that running the long run of wire from source to fuse to ignition switch to safety switch to toggle switch to pump is a fairly long run so you'll need a relay to keep from burning the pump up.
    Voltage on this long run of wire will be about 10% lower or more at the pump as compared to at the battery.
    Which means, the pump may not burn up right away, but it's life will be considerably shortened.

    Fwiw, there are 20 fuses along the seat base.
    Only disadvantage I've found with them there was once my 5 year old granddaughter kicked one with her heel and killed the stoplights.

    Reason for so many fuses is that the car is wired somewhat like an airplane.
    One fuse for left high beam, one fuse for left low beam etc.
    I always thought it was kind of dumb to lose every light in the car when there's only a problem with one wire.
    Makes for easy trouble shooting as well, but 14 years and 47,000 miles down the road and no probs....
     

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  8. Von Rigg Fink
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    redundancy is king!
     
  9. Shiva69
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    one idea that i saw in the magazine/newspaper (Farmshow)
    they used temperature sensitive solder on a copper tubing connected directly to the fire extuinguisher. so when the fire would melt the solder on the nozels in the engine bay of the farm equipment the extinquisher would put out the fire.
    i plan on putting something similar under hood on my truck. after i figure out a way to hide it.
    g
     


  10. Yep.


    I've always heard you can steer the Cessna high wingers by opening a door.:eek:

    Must be why they installed two of them....:D
     

  11. My little bro worked in the oil fields and set up a fire suppresion system on an isolated - way out by itself pump engine - by installing a spring loaded switch at one end of the enclosure.
    A white cotton string was strung across the top of the engine.
    One end tied solid to the encosure frame, the other to the spring loaded NC switch.

    If a fire started, the string burned in two, the switch closed and the engine enclosure was flooded with fire suppressant.
    Far as I know it worked one time and up to the time he left the oil fields it hadn't been required again.

    Lotta clever guys work in the oil fields.
    More than few interesting stories out there.
     
  12. GlenC
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    In the 60's I used to help scrutineer at the local drags. One of my jobs was checking fuel lines, and you'd be amazed how many heavily modifiied cars would turn up with plastic fuel lines just pushed onto the connectors, no clamps, no tie wire, nothing.

    And they'd get really pised off when we refused to let them run until they fixed the problem too!

    Cheers, Glen.
     
  13. Von Rigg Fink
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    and that statement is true ..but it is very difficult if not near impossible to do that at crusing speed of over 150 mph..but down near 30 or 40 knots it is possible but that slow in airspeed you shouldnt be fuckin with the doors you should be flying the plane and paying attention to the fact that you are close to stalling the airframe..
     

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