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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by mercjoe, Sep 11, 2007.

  1. mercjoe
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  2. UnIOnViLLEHauNT
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    Thats really cool.
     
  3. Anderson
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    Looks like fun.

    The same guy has this video posted....when did Jimmy White move down to Argentina? :D

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  4. Evel
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    Those are my People..


    MercJoe.. Its cool to see someone from Argentina on here...
    my whole family is from B.Aires..

    neat to see Hot Rods out there.. Che Peeebee.

    Ummmmmm Milanessa.

    hahahahaha boludo.

    My spanish spelling ****s..
     
  5. mercjoe
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    he he...., it doesnt ****s..., and thats more Argentinean than Spanish =)
    Que hacés pibe, que andás haciendo allá en los Estados Unidos.., un abrazo grande para vos y tu flia desde acá, pleno Barrio Norte.

    Tell someone from your family to translate that....

    Good to hear from you.

    D.


     
  6. mercjoe
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    Yeah, I saw that one too, wonder what that old ride is.., sounds cool.., thats a "Fase 2" argentine V8 based on the american 292 Y block.
    BTW : who's Jimmy white ?

     

  7. HEY, same goes for me that is cool, and my family is from Buenos Aires ummm Havana alfajors..
     
  8. Bruce Lancaster
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    There has to be a whole history of something very like hotrodding in Argentina...we get only hints up here. I've read old yarns about Ford vs Chevy stock car long distance racing from the days of Fangio, and then some stuff appeared about 1970 about a modern version of the same, with strange mutant American cars powered by things like OHC Jeep sixes doing the racing...
    A while back I was corresponding with an Argentine...Alberto, maybe Alfredo. Dondi who turns up at the barn from time to time, building a '46 Ford...I mailed him an old paperback I had en***led "Argentine Road race", about a wise old Argentine roadracer (always eat lots of polenta before the big race...) and his young apprentice in long distance racing with a '46 Ford!
    Argentina is a big place, and cars became important ther long before they mattered much in those countries in SA that were mostly vertical or mostly swamp...

    "Argentine Road Race", Philip Harkins, 1960's vintage...
     
  9. Asphalt Outlaw Hero
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    When I was down there,everyone drove like that. Right side of street was optional:eek: .They had some pretty cool cars (and motorcycles).37 chevys were popular as racers.
     
  10. mercjoe
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    You are right Bruce, there's a long automotive/racing tradition.
    The legendary "Turismo carretera" between the 30's ad 50's (TC actually still exists but has nothing to do with it's early versions) were almost all Chevy and Ford coupes, the rest another american brands. Thats where Fangio started his carrier and there are lots of local heroes from that time. They were mechanics, racers.., all together...., real nut peple.

    By the the 70's it all turned out to a dispute between Ford (falcons), Chevys (Novas), Dodge GTX (local chrysler model), Renault Torino (great national car), etc. Dirt long distance tracks were left behind and the new story began. Still very popular category but not the same.

    There are books about Argentine automotive history, I'll try to get some, do some scan and post it here.

    Diego



     
  11. Zerk
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    Finding information on the Turismo Carretera online is tough. This is something I'd like to learn about.

    There are a few sites about the Renault/IKA Torino, an Argentinean musclecar/sports coupe with '64+ Rambler American bodies and modified Jeep 230ci. OHC 6. Awesome car.
     
  12. SimonSez
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    Here are some pretty poor quiality pics I save years ago on some pre-war coupes racing in Argentina.

    Would love to see some better quality pics of these !!
     

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  13. mercjoe
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    It impressed me how much interest about TC.....

    Here some articles with small pictures of rebuilt original cars from the real "epoque":
    http://www.carburando.com/busca-nota2.php?notaID=16553&secID=7
    http://www.sanfrancisco.gov.ar/subsitios/eventos/tc_historico.asp

    There are several clubs that take care and preserve this gems.
    Promise to get to a show and post some really good pics.


     
  14. THE CHIEF
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    good to see more argentinians in this, AGUANTE BOCA!!!!!!
     
  15. THE CHIEF
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    and they sound like their from cordova
     
  16. mercjoe
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    You are right..., they are from Cordoba.
    How do you know that chief ?!?!

     
  17. plan9
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    its a 33/34 ford something. ;)

    jimmy white:
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  18. the argentinian's build some of the craziest specials. There was a killer stutz for sale a while back.
     
  19. JohnJoyo
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    Diego,
    this post made my lunch...THANKS!

    Jimmy White is a very talented hot rod builder in California....aka Circle City Hot Rods. [SIZE=-1]www.circlecityhotrods.com/[/SIZE]

    The reference is from part of Mad Fabricators Society Volume 2 DVD. He has a Hemi powered coupe and they video a ride along. Next time my wife's uncle comes to visit I'll send some videos back with him to get to you, or you could order from "Evel" on the HAMB if you want them sooner.

    When I was down there I saw hints of hot rodding and old tin around here and there, but it was hard to dig any deeper since I don't speak Spanish. Uruguay had some neat old tin also.....it seemed more visible there. From looking at the Argentine cl***ified websites......looks like theres plenty of good stuff down there to keep you busy though.

    Thanks for sharing!
    John
     
  20. jonzcustomshop
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    For the fun of it I did a little quick argentine research, and grabbed some shots.
    I had read about south american cars before.
    They acquired old tooling from the u.s., and continued to make our body styles well into the 90's.
    Too bad they didn't get the tooling for 33 fords, 51 mercs, and 55 chevys!
    IKA stands for Industrial Kaiser Argentina.
    they were producing the 54 kaiser body style into the 60's
    the torino was rambler based (1964-5?)
    A 1971 chevy 400 (64-5 nova)
    A 1973 falcon ranchero, and an 82 falcon deluxe (64-5 falcon)
    Now for a parts run to argentina!!!!!
     

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  21. cavera
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    ...thats a cool video.
    ..still a lot of great cars in Argentina,thats where I found my 1930 Ford 5w coupe.
    Im in Sao Paolo,Brazil!!!
    Saludos,
    Dan
     
  22. mercjoe
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    Hey John !!! whats up ??

    Difference between Uruguay and Argentina is that our Uruguayan neighbors kept using old grandpa's car for generations.
    Thats something neat from Uruguay, almost any vintage car for sale is running its original engine, etc !! They dont throw things away =)
    thats why they are more visible.

    Thing here is more like in the US, you gotta search for abandoned things or already rodded cars (much **** actually)

    So your wifey is from here.., uh ? she must be pretty..., thats for sure.
    I would love to have those DVDs..., keep your wife's uncle alone..., whos selling them ?

    Thanks John
    Diego


     
  23. mercjoe
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    Jonz,

    For the years of 61 and 62 falcons were ***embled here
    with all parts imported from the US, just a few parts were made locally. Both 61 and 62 were exactly the same as their counterparts
    in the US. 63 was the year where actual Argentine production began
    and that 63 "model" remained untoched tilll 91, with several cosmetic and obviously interior updates between those years, but the body remained almost exactly the same.

    http://www.todofalcon.com.ar

    Chevy Nova 68 was another case..., that model began production here at that year and continued unchanged till 82. There were cool special editions like the "Serie 2" between 78 and 82 I guess.

    http://www.chivopasion.com.ar/
    This is a chevrolet advocates forum, but the great majority are
    NOVA owners.
    NOTE: It is not known as Nova..., it was named from factory as "chevy".

    Torino is a national car made by IKA, it was based on an AM model (cant remember which one) and restyled by pininfarina.All mechanics were also designed and made here. That car won its category and almost won the general in Nurburgring - Germany on 68 against ferraris.., Jaguars, etc, etc. (it actually won the general but some points were taken off because of an exhaust breakage).Team leader was Fangio. That was a great car.., built from 67 to 83.

    http://www.eltorino.com.ar/

    There are some other examples, but I gotta go now !!!

    Diego

     
  24. THE CHIEF
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    se porque soy porteño, lol i lived in argentina for half my life and i go 2 times a year
     
  25. mercjoe
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    Que grande Chief..., pero sos Argentino en serio entonces ?

     
  26. mercjoe
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    Brazil presente !!! un hermano Brasileiro parte del HAMB..., que alegria Cavera.

    Abrazo grande
    Diego


     
  27. THE CHIEF
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    si naci en Belgrano

     
  28. RPW
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    Nice to see! Im going on a buisness trip to South America next month. Will visit both Sao Paolo and Buenos Aires and I will of course bring a camera with me...
     

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