I just bought a 66 Fury II that's got a bad transmission. Also I know the car is past the cutoff date, but I'm sure a couple of people here have or wanted to use a 727 Torqueflite on their Rod so maybe this could help them out too? Anyway, the question is. Can the later model 727's be put in an older model car? Reson I ask is, I've seen a couple 70's Dodge trucks that have a 727 in them and that'd be a great option cause those trucks are everywhere around here. Also Can you take a 727 that's set-up for a 4x4 vehicle and merely switch out the transfer case for an extension housing? Thanks for any help,
Bellhousing bolt patterns are different between six cylinder, small block and big block. Tailshafts on 4X4`s are very different from 2X4`s. Torque converters are very engine specific with different weights,sizes and stall speeds.. Moral of the story, Mopar is very specific....the good news is that these transes are very inexpensive to rebuild...get on the phone and find someone local that is willing to do a "bench job" if you want to save some money. Hope it helps....something good should come from my 26 years of trans experience.....now I should go introduce myself after all this time just lurking !!! lol Kool
Some of the trans in 4x4 Dodges are divorced....meaning the trans is the same as a 2wd with a short driveline to the T-case and will work for you....
Sounds like hunting down a 727 is a waste of time. I'll just go with the rebuild option. Thanks for the info Daddy-o! Also theres a 4x4 Dodge at the local yard. I'll have to take a look at it when I get the time. I guess it wouldn't hurt to have a extra transmission laying around since the yard charges about $20 bucks for one. Thanks Sinister.
also be careful with what year the trans is, when getting parts, because around 1968 they changed all the parts inside as well as the input shaft splines and torque converter splines. One of the things I remember from stocking used parts on the shelves at the trans shop 25 years ago
There is a lot of stuff that won't interchange from the '65-down 727's; I think the valve bodies are different, and the '64 or so and earlier had a flanged output shaft instead of a spline. The small block 727's are also fairly similar (year-for-year), except for differing amounts of clutches (and bellhousing end of the case). Something to keep in mind if you open it up and find you need 'hard parts'. Of course, a LOT of small blocks came with 904's which doesn't help you out a lot... There were a number of kickdown levers; a lot of hot rod guys like to use the 4.2:1 lever, but you'll want to ask a trans guy if it's a good thing with your particular valve body. For myself, I'd get a 1966 shop manual, and just do a stock rebuild. -bill
Easy and strongest. My Dad built raqcing T-Flites for a couple of decades. Someone who is a good soource of info, sells a darn fine product for most price and need options, and is a nice guy to deal with is John Cope of Cope Racing Trans. I think he's in the Chicago area, but i just bought one of his units for my 'Corvette Killer' old beater Dodge truck and it works great.
And '66 was the last year for the TF 727 with a rear pump (so you can tow it with all 4 wheels on the ground and not burn it up). That car wouldn't happen to have a 318 Poly in it, would it? ~Jason
kool daddy 0 is right, 727's are cake to rebuild. We did one for a buddy, and even after we consumed mass quanities of Lynchburg's finest during the rebuild, it worked, and has worked for years. It's in a not to lightly driven Jeep too. Rebuild kits are a fraction of the cost of what someone would charge to redo it. If you've ever rebuilt a motor, it's WAYYYY harder to do that than rebuild a 727. Just be sure to either get a reman/new torque converter or have your's flushed out. And add an aftermarket cooler too, it'll help it live longer. Just my .002. Jay
Interchange on torque convertors is no big deal, 66 models except some rare 440s are all internally balanced engines. That translates to no weight on the torque convertor if you found a used tranny an the convertor had a weight it could just be knocked off with a chisel. Be sure the trans is from the same engine family and as long as it has a slip yoke type trans it will interchange. A few things people new to mopars don't usually know. It has to be in neurtral to check the fluid and it must have the detent or kickdown linkage on it. Without the linkage it won't last very long! I think the 727 and 904 are by far the easiest to overhaul but I don't think it is something everyone can do. It will be a great experience if you try no matter what the outcome. I build torquflites for any application if I can do anything to help just pm me. Also if you want to know if a specific application will fit your car just yell. Chad
Aren't there a bunch of Chevy-to TF 727 adapters out there? I heard that racers used to use 'em a lot because they'd actually start out in 1, whereas others would start out in 2 and kick down to 1 at a certain pressure point... ~Jason
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