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Acetylene smoke in paint jobs.

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by mushmouth, Oct 23, 2007.

  1. mushmouth
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    I dont know if I'm going to get stoned for asking this, but I was wondering if anybody had pictures of this paint trick. Any info on it would be nice too. Was it something that was done in the 50's or 60's?
     
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  2. KIRK!
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    More of a '70s deal. I think there was a thread on the subject at one time.
     
  3. metalman
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    Yeah, we did a lot of it in the 70's, fast custom treatment for covering large panels on vans especially. I sure it would make the FD all excited to see someone running a torch inside the paint booth! Sorry, no pics but easy enough to practice. Just light the acetylene only and lightly but quickly p*** it over a panel. Wiggle your wrist or move the torch in and out as you make your p*** to create a pattern. Wipe it off if you don't like it or clear or candy over it if you do.
     
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  4. mushmouth
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  5. i have a bike from the 60's that has that style of paint. always wondered how it was accomplished.
     
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  6. muddy
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    they also use this as a fake woodgraining technique. you paint a base coat of a woody type colour and then torch over it, then drag a stiff brush through it to create a grain pattern.
     
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  7. speedtool
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    Saw it done years ago, they did a swell woodgrain on a big honkin' van.
     
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  9. Karpo
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    We just did that on the Mondello Matsubara altered. Our car was built in 1969. If you email me offline I will give you some pointers.
     
  10. Neophyte
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    Why not share the pointers online for the rest of us to follow too?
     
  11. straightaxle65
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    Yes..........Please share!!
     
  12. Speedwagen
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    I did it on a Topolino in the early 70's
    Other dirty deads done dirt cheap--cob webbing and lace paint.
     
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  14. Karpo
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    I would share some pointers with you guys but I cant figure out how to attach some photos here. Maybe someone can help!
     
  15. HELLMET
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    karpo please post some pics of the car john carambia painted that car is the real deal.
     
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  16. Destralo Roach
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    In the late 80's are some pics of mike Kennadys 57 panshovel, (older brother to pat Kennady) it was painted red with smoke flames in the clearcoat, one bad as flame job! to me two years to get mike to tell me how he did it!...Roach.
     
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  18. Karpo
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    [​IMG]java[​IMG]script:void(0);[​IMG], Here is the Mondello & Matsubara Altered after it has been smoked and about 30 coats of cobalt blue candy. The trick is you have to have the acetylene very low and close to the body, also very important is to have a smooth rhythm and flow. Dont be afraid of burning the paint, you just have to be fast and do not let the torch sit. Also you will need to practice on something before you smoke. John practiced on a body panel to get it just right, and when you get a chance to see the final result of this car, look at the panels in the sunlight and it really pops at you. Sorry I am still trying to figure out how to send pictures.Karpo
     
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  19. ray
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    that's *****in!

    for images, with photobucket all you have to do is copy the text in the "IMG Code" box under your pics and paste it into your message here on the hamb...DONE!;)
     
  20. Rudebaker
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    I would say it dates back to the mid-60's. We did it on model cars back in the late 60's by taking the sprue ( the "trees" the parts come on ) and lighting it then holding the body, with the paint still slightly tacky, in the smoke and turning it to get the pattern we wanted, then we cleared over it. Learned that one in Model Car Science magazine.
     
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  21. lothiandon1940
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    There was a '34 Ford on the other site recently ( I think it came out of the Kennedy Bros. shop) that had the acetylene treatment on the dash."Way cool"!! It looked like a white base coat, then smoked, then cleared. Ironically a friend of mine had been talking about the process a few months before and I half jokingly told him he was nuts, then when I saw the pictures of the '34, it was him who had the last laugh. You know what they say........If you can remember the '60's, then you weren't there.:D


     
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  22. Wow, I am in love
     
  23. pretty cool, I missed the other threads, so it was good they were posted as well.
    thanks
     
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  24. COS
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    I was told about a process that involved lighting a wine bottle cork on fire and using the smoke to lay over some wet paint... It gave it a woodgrain effect.. Then they would candy or clear over it...


    -COS
     
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  25. Perfect Body Works, Somerset, N.J. did some of this in late fifties, was on a I think 55 Ford wrecker and a 54 Ford pick-up. Both had louverd hoods and were used at a couple local race tracks. Butch would not let anyone watch!! He also did what is now called real fire paint. His brother (Jenco) air brushed shirts also. Sorry I never took pictures of that or any cars we had.
     
  26. SinisterCustom
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    I have an article on how it's done......really simple.
    Just fire up your torch with no oxy and "wave" it over the wet paint......
    Don't forget your "freak drops" and "cobwebs".......
     
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  27. kiotes
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    [​IMG]
    Here is one at the mitchell SD car show, looked good from a far, but none of the panels lined up right. Then you looked inside and the role ccage looked like bubble gum was holding it
     
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  29. 302GMC
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    Rodding & Restyling had a how-to article in the May (?) '56 issue ...
     
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