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331 hemi questions

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by cowboy181d, Nov 10, 2007.

  1. cowboy181d
    Joined: Sep 15, 2007
    Posts: 23

    cowboy181d
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    from Burns, Or

    Hey all I am aquireing a 331 red ram hemi from a 1951 dodge 1 1/2 ton truck and I was wondering if the bell housing pattern on a dodge hemi was the same as a 360 from the earily 70's as I have a mopar 4 spd and bellhousing That I would like to use.. It is going to be taking the place of an old flatty 6 and gyromatic in my 51 coronet. Any info would be great!!!

    Thanks
    damen hill
     
  2. edgeabilly
    Joined: Dec 10, 2006
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    edgeabilly
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    I thought Dodge started the Hemi red ram in 53?
     
  3. HEATHEN
    Joined: Nov 22, 2005
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    HEATHEN
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    from SIDNEY, NY

    First things first....a 331 is not a Dodge hemi, it's a Chrysler, which is very different. Either it's not a 331, or it's not a Dodge. Dodge hemis debuted in '53. In any event, it won't accept a 360 bell housing.
     
  4. cowboy181d
    Joined: Sep 15, 2007
    Posts: 23

    cowboy181d
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    from Burns, Or

    Oh ok I was mis informed about the truck... It is a dodge with a hemi Te gent I am geting it from was the one who gave me the year and specs...
     
  5. RichFox
    Joined: Dec 3, 2006
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    RichFox
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    If it's from a Dodge truck, it may very well be a 331. If it is a '51 331 it will have the long bellhousing that is not the same as even a '53 Red Ram Dodge.
     
  6. maxspeedracing
    Joined: Sep 16, 2007
    Posts: 191

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    Since the 51 dodge didn't have a hemi, that means someone put it there.

    Find out which 331 it is (short bell or extended bell). The extended bells have a cast-in bellhousing and are the early chrysler. The short bell 331 is 53 and 54 I believe.

    While the bellhousing bolt pattern might be the same, the crank stick out might not be. I know hot heads sells adapters for chrysler to late mopar, so I ***ume they are different.

    After you ID the block, post a note on Hot heads forum.
     
  7. cowboy181d
    Joined: Sep 15, 2007
    Posts: 23

    cowboy181d
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    from Burns, Or

    Cool Thanks everyone I am going out to get the motor this week so I will let everone know!
     
  8. George
    Joined: Jan 1, 2005
    Posts: 8,000

    George
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    Dodge used Chr Hemis in thier big trucks, & Dodge Hemi(or polys) in the smaller trucks. To use a modern 904/727,or GM you need an adaptor. The 51-3 Chr has the long tail. ****** adaptors on them limit ****** choice, adaptors available for short tail Chr & the Dodges with quite a few choices.
     
  9. panic
    Joined: Jan 3, 2004
    Posts: 1,450

    panic

    Not trying to ruin your day, but in the last 10 years of the 1950s engines bought/sold sight unseen I've heard about, all were "Chrysler hemis", and 1/2 were "392 hemis".
    Why?
    Because the source doesn't know what he's looking at, and it's a big V8 in an old car.
    Most were polys, some actual Chryslers, a few DeSotos and Dodges, and even some 350, 361 etc. B.

    How was it described to you?
     

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