i've used the san clemente and laguna hills dmv.......they all suck. at least the laguna hills dmv isn't as critical about the condition of the yom plates. the san clemente one wanted me to restore the '36 plates first (i just wanted to title the car in my name and save the numbers on the '36 plate), i went to the laguna hills one and they loved them....hell i wasn't even finished with the '47 plates when i went there and they let them pass. like it was said the offices can only fill out the paperwork for the yom or other plates, sacramento has the last say. the only way they can cock block you is to not fill out the yom paperwork, if you can't run the '51 plates because of sacramento then another dmv, aaa or registration service isn't going to be able help. to comment on bad rods post, IF you can prove (through paperwork) that the old plates (in his case the '63 plates) were the LAST registered plates to that car then you have a good case to press to use them. for example if you have say white plates and find the black ones inside the car you CANNOT go back to the black ones since it's been registered to the white ones. so now you have 3 choices, 1 is to get yom plates, 2 is to get new white plates or 3 is to do nothing and not have a driver. i've heard this kinda works, you enter in the plate number as if your going for personalized plates and it will tell you if the #'s are used. https://vrir.dmv.ca.gov/ipp/PerLicensePlateServlet
The reason the fellow was able to register his 59 car with the 63 black and yellow plates is: #1 Those plates are STILL being used as issed by the DMV. They are the oldest ones. #2 The plates he had were originally issued to the 59 car back in 63 when the DMV retired the yellow and black plates that were on the car and switched to the black and yellow. As far as the DMV allowing the use of the 63 issued black and yellow plates as YOM plates, that would require the DMV to take the plates out of the system. That means retiring them from those who are using them NOW. I don't think that is going to happen anytime soon, for a number of reasons. I can hear ALL the yelling NOW. WHO wants to GIVE UP their black and yellow plates? Come on, any takers? Stop wasting positive energy. Good Luck, Have Fun.
Watch what you put about illegal plates on here or any website. The DMV watches this site. I know, one guy mentioned it when my wrecking yard was "investigated" last month. When I posted that we got raided on some guys license plate wanted post, I got alot of emails from people I don't know wanting details.. Such as names of people that were there , etc. I dont care about divulging their secret shit, as the DMV has fucked me alot. Just an FYI to you that think you can scoot under the radar...
The end of that article was this nice nugget. *Soon to be 1969 for cars and 1972 for light trucks! Assembly Bill AB 462 passed the State Legislature unanimously, and was approved by the Govinator on October 11, 2007. Great news for all you Mustang, Camaro, Barracuda etc. owners out there! 1960's "black plates" will indeed be eligible for YOM. It's official, and the change will be effective on July 1, 2009. Here is an analysis of the bill: http://info.sen.ca.gov/pub/07-08/bill/asm/ab_0451-0500/ab_462_cfa_20070417_145823_asm_comm.html
Yes, 1oldtimer and 58Lincoln are right. One reason I was able to keep my plates was because they were the original assigned plates to my car in 1963 when all the older plates were retired. This should be the same as 55 Post's Model A. Another interesting thing is that I never showed my plates to DMV. I had to sign a form that said I claimed that the plates were in good usable shape (I don't remember the exact language). Mike
You should've gone through AAA for these transactions, I never have a problem. DMV a nighrtmare???---this is nothing new, read the past posts, do a search. -If you do the presonalized plate program, they will issue you new personalized plates and you'll just have to run the risk of runnign the old plates anyways. BTW- I know a lot of old guys who run old plates on their cars and never get pulled over, they just keep trhe ugly new plates in the trunk.
Here's what I did... 1. Get historic plates. 2. Dip in paint remover. 3. Paint black. 3. One shot yellow for the numbers. Done. Rich
the problem is if the plate numbers are taken they you can't get those numbers on a personalized plate because they are already taken. the only way that might work is if you only have 1 plate (they require 2 except 1945,46) and want to register it with that plate, if you had both plates and the numbers where clear then it makes no sense you get new one with the old numbers. most likely the reason he couldn't use them is because the dmv gave his numbers away. when they fall off the records (5 years without any action from owner, this is why it is worth the $15 non op fee) they are up for grabs. most likely you where able to get yours back is because the '63 and up numbers aren't being used (if they are then very, very little). if his numbers were clear, he had both plates and could prove they were on his car then the dmv would have allowed it. also you have found the human factor at the dmv when you just had to sign a form instead of them wanting to see your plates......this is what makes every dmv different.
Here's the latest: The chicky that told me it's impossible to register my 51 plates on my 31 called me this morning and said that she would be passing it along the processing unit to "see what she could do". What really happened was that she was told by another DMV employee that it was possible(again)to acclompish said task. Apparently the biggest problem with this whole mess was that the car has been out of the system since 53, the last time it was registered in Cali. Since it's been so long they need to "rebuild the record". Not sure exactly what that means, but start rebuilding it and let me put those 51's on my Coupe!!!! Until the mailman brings me my new tags, this is by no means over, so I will keep everyone updated. e
I don't know whats going on with the DMV, but i've been trying to register clean YOM plates for my '41 Ford. The took all the information at the local DMV, but said they had to sent it to Sacramento and gave me a temp paper plate. It's been over 1 month now, went back to the DMV today and they told me that it "takes time," and that's why the temp paper is good until end of December. Im nervous and annoyed about this, as i've registered YOM more than a couple times successfully. I fear what they are changing.... By the way-- i'll be driving with these proper year plates no matter what the DMV says. If they give me new plates (and i have to accept them,) they'll promptly be "mounted" in the glove box. It's ridiculous that good citizens like myself are forced to break the DMV's lame facist rules... -scott noteboom
man i don't like to hear that.... i just had them send in the yom paperwork for the '47 2 weeks ago and i'm waiting for it. the last few times i've done the yom thing it seemed to only take about 2-3 weeks..... i'm just hoping their busy .
Seems to me if you have a title or registration that says those plates went with that car, there should not be a problem.
Tha car could not have been registered with the '51 plates after 1962. California standardized their plates in '63, making everone change to the then new black plates. I bought my '63 Impala in CA from the original owner. He bought the car in Oct. of '62 and was issued a '62 plate. When he renewed his reg. in '63, the DMV made him change to the black plate, which stayed on the car until I moved here to AZ.
Ahh, that makes sense. I didn't realize that they were re-using numbers prior to 1963. If his 1951 numbers are in use on another vehicle, I could see how that would pose a problem! Mike
I got CA 1934 plates on Ebay for $55. I made sure they were "clear" before buying them. I then made an appointment online to go to DMV then following week. I took in my then current plates and my registration on my appointment day. I waited for about 10 minutes until they called my number, exchanged my old plates, they gave me a temporary registration, and I was gone. I then repainted the plates in their original sunflower yellow and black numbers, got oversized plate frames from Bob Drake, ....done. This was at the DMV in Pasadena. DMV usually is a nightmare, but this was a breeze. My advise: get YOM plates, and get an appointment online instead of just going to DMV without one. Also, take a clothespin for your nose...the people crowding the DMV always smell like a BBQ gone bad, compost and wet dogs.
All this for a 50's plate?? Why would you not want the YOM '31 plate? Nothing's better than a YOM plate on ANY car....belly up and spend the $$ on '31's and register it already. You won't be bummed. If the car's gonna be flipped, take them off when you sell it and reuse them.
Here's what a buddy of mine did. not legal but..... He took a '50 plate and doctored up the '50 to look like a '34. In Mi you do a photocopy of the plate and send it in. Voila! A month later he has a registration for a '34 with the '50 plate after he undoctor's the plate. Right. Not legal but it's worked for two years now. Just keep yur nose clean and the man might never pull you over. Regitration matches the tag just not the year...... Our registrations say the year of the car not the tag. Not sure I would do this but it worked for him.
to tell you the truth i would rather have a 50's or even a '63 plate on my '36/'47 instead of the yom, to me it's much nicer when it's a real vintage find (or looks that way) like it's was someone's old hot rod. the yom is almost like the white plates (you just pay money and register) now but look nicer. don't get me wrong i have them on my cars but they're getting real common.
Don't YOM plates stay with the car once it is registered and sold? I don't think he can reuse them on another car.
I didn't know that. I had 1963 plates on my 1957 VW Transporter, which makes sense to me now. They asked me for my black plates when I put the van in my name and I said "Over my dead body." She looked at me funny and I said that it would bring down the collector value to put new white plates on my antique van. Seems like when you bring up money and value people listen. I still think if you have a title and registration with those plates assigned to that car's VIN # then you should be able to use the plate. It's not like you are taking some random plates and putting them on the car.
3 weeks and still waiting (they did give me a dec temp tag though). also i did find out the the AAA will do yom plates but you have to find a person who WANTS to do it, the others will say they don't.
I'd be happy to run YOM plates. Here in PA they don't let you, so you can pay extra and get Street rod plates or every day plates, unless you got a true antique, then you can have antique plates. it just sucks.
gotta thank everyone for this thread. It made me get off my rear and get my paperwork straight on my F-1. It seems i was 15 years past the 31 day period to get the title switched after i bought it. All in all the tag agency was helpful. There was even a limit on the penalty they could charge! They also gave me the info for yom tags. Now I just gotta get the thing running.
the thing about this battle is "THE DMV WILL WIN" put the fucking plates on the garage wall and enjoy them. put the effort into building your car. here in wa. state it's the same law: Y.O.M. anybody else here smell a drama queen?
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