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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 33 ply 440, Dec 7, 2007.

  1. 33 ply 440
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    went to the muffler center picked up a piece pipe , run it through my mandrel bender , uhh !! ripples , heavy pipe thought it would work . now what ?
     
  2. Pipe (tubing) wasn't heavy enough. Example....Hossfeld dies require minimum wall thicknesses for various tube diameters and bend radii.
     
  3. dsmith1279
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    Not sure what your trying to accomplish, but you might try welding a cap on one end, filling it with sand, welding on a cover for the other end and then try it in the bender.
     
  4. 33 ply 440
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    The pipe I was bending .070 + thick , alway's something new to play with , something new to learn .
     
  5. What diameter TUBE and what centerline radius were you trying to achieve ?

    Muffler shops don't deal in pipe.
     
  6. rab71
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    I just buy straight pipe and the mandrel bends I want then but weld them. Much easier. But since you have the bender...?
     
  7. zman
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    The how is he supposed to get a mandrel in it?
     
  8. dsmith1279
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  9. There is no such thing as 1 3/4" pipe.
     
  10. dsmith1279
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  11. 33 ply 440
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    the die i was useing 13/4 , everthing fit nice . i don't have a problem using heavier tubing , I'm going to bend the cages for my 26 T & my 33 ply. thought I'd make my own headers too . I like the idea of doing as much as I can for myself , just bought the bender so I'm just playing now .
     
  12. Bear Metal Kustoms
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    What bender are you using? what is the wall thickness on the pipe? what radius are you bending? Lot's of variables.. Jason.
     
  13. Unkl Ian
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    Sounds like a cheapo compression bender,not a mandrel bender.

    Mandrel benders support the bend from the inside of the tube.
     
  14. zman
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  15. budd
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    pipe is measured on the inside, pipe is used to move stuff on the inside like water, gas, poo, tubing is measured on the outside and is used as structural as in, roll bars, cloths racks, and exhaust is tubing even though exhaust goes through it, a mandrel bender has a solid or segmented suport that goes on the inside of the tube while its being bent, thin wall tube will wrinkle if its bent at to small a radius, without having a mandrel inside it as its being bent.
     
  16. 33 ply 440
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    will if this works [​IMG]
     
  17. 33 ply 440
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  18. ray
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    wait a minute...are you using exhaust tube for roll cages?

     
  19. dsmith1279
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    Budd, I appreciate the clarification.

    Zman, you obviously had the opportunity to provide the same type of clarification but you chose to be an ass.

    To me it comes down to a simple question. Regardless if it is "tubing" or "pipe" would the concept I mention work.

    Answer: Yes.

    If you want to pick apart the semantics then go ahead. I am simply trying to provide a poster a simple way to resolve an issue. Obviously you have many posts and I, obviously, am listed as an FNG. Not sure that holds much water outside of the fact that you spend way too much time in front of your computer probably eating Cheeto's with an orange penis.
     
  20. zman
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    first off, you don't know what a mandrel bender is, second you don't know the difference between tubing and pipe. if you think that you should be giving advice based on something you did with your HF pipe kinker then go ahead, but you lack credibility not because you're a FNG but because you don't know what you are talking about.... get over it already
     
  21. Von Rigg Fink
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    wow tuff room...orange penis and all!
     
  22. skajaquada
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    just as long as nobody offers to lick it off...
     
  23. 33 ply 440
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    Tried to post a pic . as you can see that worked too . I have a E-Z , bend mandrel bender , the muffler pipe is 1.750 AL anyway that is what's stamped on it .
     
  24. I have a JD2 model and the dies for 1.75 TUBE show the minimum wall at .095 for a 5.5" die and a .083 wall for a 6.5" die. Either way yours is even thinner.
     
  25. Bear Metal Kustoms
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    This is what you have???? This is not a mandrel bender.. I got this off the e-z bend website.These will be almost impossible to bend thin wall tubing on...you could pack with sand and weld the ends shut to bend it on this bender..... Jason
     

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  26. 33 ply 440
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    Nope , I have the 90 degree EZ tube bender . as i said the wall thickness was about .070 .
     
  27. Bear Metal Kustoms
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    Ok...is this it????This isn't a mandrel bender either..That's why guys are being hard on you...You could pack and cap to bend thinwall on this bender also... Jason.
     

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  28. Bear Metal Kustoms
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    Here, ia a pic of his problem.. bender is in the background.....
     

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  29. budd
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    i have looked at pics of that type of bender before and i think without to much trouble you make it into a mandrel bender, just a plug mandrel. that would get rid of the wrinkles. heres a pic of a segmented mandrel, a plug mandrel does not have the little dunuts on the end.
     

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