This look safe to you guys??

Was browsing Ebay as usual,and came across this.Woul any of you trust the weight of the vicle on the bolts holding the arms to the frame??



item #220180510295

 

The guy never heard of double shear ?

Weight isn't a problem.

Torque will be a problem.

 

No, not in single shear like that. Just my two cents.

 

Should be double shear as mentioned....too much twist in the rubber bushings like that. Perhaps he was planning on changing to radius rod type upper control arms and the stock trailing arms were just to roll around a project before completion?

 

Unsafe from where I sit.

 

In theory the bottom arms take most of the load and the top are basically there to locate the axle, especially in Independant front suspension....but in saying that, there are forces going in all directions here and its not so much the size of the bolt, its the fact that it does NOT have any support on that open side of the arm...correct me if Im wrong but that rubber bushed control arm is from the car that the axle came from and it needs to be located in a similar position and supported on both sides of the bolt, as it was in the car it came from.........not safe on my book, no way.....Bert

 

given who the seller is.....this is a well built piece.... he's been mentioned on here before....used to go by buds55 or something along those lines.....brandon

 

ok,just making sure I wasn`t being mean......how does a "Rod Shop" get away with building **** like this?

 

you guys are quick....sheeez

 

if it doesn't bend/snap the bolts, it's going to give that angle iron used to mount it a whole bunch of new angles to play with!!

 

wow..

its bid to 1500..

anyone else notice the front "axle"?

what is that?

 

I had a 60 El Camino. in 1960 they only had one upper arm, it was obvious to me that at one time or another the one arm with bracket attatched had been ripped out of it's place and welded back in.

there is much more going on in that area than locating the axle.

 

heres a link to another discussion on this person..... as for the 60 chev arm deal...thought they didn't get the 4th arm till 61 or 62 with the 409....?
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=186301&highlight=buds55

brandon

 

Anything that you can support on two sides, is better than one, yes?
but, now my thoughts come to coil over shocks...at the frame, of course, they are double shear, but, on the axle end...?
All the weight on the vehicle rests on those two bolts... however, it RESTS on them, I ***ume most of the twisting forces are acting on the bars or radius rods in this ( coil overs...) case? this kind of discussion always makes me get excited...
yes, I find ch***is/suspension dynamics exciting.

 

I'd be moving those angle brackets forward a couple of inches, making them out of a 'U' channel instead of angle, and supporting that top bolt on both sides like it would have been under the stocker. All the torque/twist from the diff and rear suspension is going to be concentrated on that one little spot where the bolt goes through the angle. I wouldn't be surprised if it tore out in very short time.

Cheers, Glen.

 

What a complete pile of ****.

I love how he throws in that language at the bottom of the ad that it's sold as parts. Seems like an attempt to try to cover his *** from civil liability when someone buys this death trap, gets it running, then kills themselves in it.

I'll bet he has a MySpace page for his Rod Shop, too. Loser

 

I did notice that. Atrocious. Unwatchable.

But let's talk about the rear a little more. What is permanently locating the spring on the perch? Springs don't just float on the perches, especially when the spring pad is a flat piece of steel. Reminds me of a 67-72 truck set up, but there are cups that retain the spring to the frame and trailing arm. In this case, as soon as the frame is unweighted , the spring can fall out, leaving the frame on the ground and the driver up ****'s creek

 

I see this **** on Rat Rods all the time. Rat Rodders are NOT Engineers... It's vehicles like this that end up crashing on the freeway and giving Hot Rods a bad name.

Like '57 Joe said " A complete pile of ****"

 

and the chop is crooked, down on drivers front. Nice!!

 

Isn't this the truck from a thread a while back that had the F-100 axle hanging out front, and some pieces of pipe bolted to it in place of bones/rods? or at least the same place? I seem to remember "rats nest" and that angle iron/truck axle setup...well...at least the important stuff is done...like pinstriping the tailgate.

 

Safe, safe at second base. But, never safe at 3rd or at home.

 

The above is just a waiver for the term Rat Rod. Make something to sell for BIG moneys on the Ebay.

 

would be easy to modify to double