ok from now on im not asking for anybodys help. background: ive got a 52 F1 and an 87 mustang donor. im using the 302/T5. ive never done anything like this before, the 52 is my first project. ive had some help as far as advice but all hands on stuff has been all me which is fine. for the past month and a half ive had 2 friends who said they would help me yank the motor bail on me. one guy said for 3 weeks in a row hed come by and help and the other for 2 weeks. in the mean time ive learned everything on my own regarding pulling a motor and ******. ive pretty much disconnected, unhooked, unravelled, unbolted everything i think i need to. im rerady to pull it and rather then wait for these guys who have cherrypickers. im gonna go rent one. i read a thread on tips which helped. but my question is this: i dont want to shell out the dough and buy an engine stand for the 302, after i pull it what do you guys think i could "rest" it on before i drop it in my truck? this is probably a stupid idea but i need to get the mustang out of my uncles driveway so he could park his work truck in it. thanks, and i apologize for the ranting im just really bummed out about the whole situation.
Don't be cheap. Spend the $40 on an engine stand. Really man, you're doing an engine swap. By the time you get done paying for all the ******** stuff, the $40 will be a drop in the bucket. Tools are never a waste of money
Set it on the pan...won't hurt it. At least your learning, and don't have to rely on other people to do things for you.
Old racing slicks work really good but a truck tire will work too. BTW, settle down, most people are talking out of their *** when they say they are going to help. Get over it, cuz you are gonna deal with it again and again...
plan a clear spot in the back of the garage. with a coupla footlongs of 2x4 to rest the oilpan and transpans on It actually IS a 1 man job...even for us amateurs! dont be too sensitive...not much chance that you'll break much drain the ****** first if its not your driveway..... or it'll piss outta the tail housing when you tip it up take some SLIGHT tension off the engine mount bolts and check that you've got the crane chains nice and even by giving it just a couple of cranks on the crane if all is good, undo ALL the engine/trans mount bolts and GROUND CABLE etc then after you give the engine crane a few more cranks....check AGAIN that you didnt forget to disconnect anything DONE! btw...what front end do you have in the F1 ???????? You may need to find a Bronco oilpan/oilpickup for crossmember clearance!
learn to work alone and only rely on yourself be safe and write **** down so you dont forget where stuff goes. you can use old tires to rest the motor for now but dont be cheap on tools that will help make the job get done safely and correctly. good luck
your right 57joe, i should just go out and get a stand. im being stupid and rushing because im pissed off. as far as stand go, i saw one in jcwhitney. its a dolley type. is it possible to keep the ****** bolted up while the engine is on the stand? i would imagine id have to support the ****** so it doesnt tip over the stand. or would i be better off seperating them? thanks for the help. i really appreciate it
Buy better beer, or buy more of it. You're missing one of those factors, or you'd have the help you needed.
'' don't rely on anybody. i can;t tell you how many cars i've built alone. its funny cause when they're done all the people that stood you up want to enjoy the fruits of YOUR labor.
Harbor freight has cheap stands, and you can usually find one even cheaper in your local auto cl***ifieds. Best part is you don't have to wait three weeks for jc whitney.
ive heard of the tire solution. ive marked everything as far as harnesses and parts with masking tape so i know. ive also taken pictures. mark - ive got the stock front end so if im not mistaken im going to need the bronco pan. not to get too sappy but in a way im more proud of myself so far. thanks for the help guys.
I have learned that the HAMBers all are here to help. First, calm down. Second, if you want it done right, do it yourself. I had help once, the friend bolted the chain on his side of the 350 engine without a washer. The engine hit the concrete HARD. Do it yourself and enjoy. Ask questions nicely, you will get great advice from the HAMB.
I use a $15 wooden furniture dolly from Lowes. I modified it with some 2x4's but I roll engines around the garage at will. Beats an old tire in that regard and if you build your own (you can buy the dolly cheaper than the casters usually and then modify it) , you can keep the ****** on it.
I've made a simple rectangle out of screwed together 2X8's just long enough to bear under the belhousing and miss the front accessory drives, and just wide enough to have two vertical pieces added come up under the motor mounts to make the motor sit level. If you're leaving the transmission attached, make it long enough to cross under the rear mount with a vertical added to clear the belhousing if need be. Screwing on Harbor Freight casters heavy enough not to collapse to each corner will make moving it around easier too. Cheap and dirty and not neccessarily considered a long term solution, but I've moved motors thousands of miles on them and have had motors stored on them for years.
I use one now. I still rely on an old truck tire tho........helps when your uncle owns a tire shop. On the flip side: Once I got myself into a **** heap of trouble in Texas. This ol Texan told me that the only *** I was going to land on was my own. TP may be a quiet man and he may like his Steve Miller band, but he's damn straight when it comes to tellin it like it is.
Cool...masking tape gets REAL grezy and hard to read (ask me how I know)...pix are MUCH better! but its not sappy to feel creative satisfaction that you dunnit by yourself!!!! thats half the frikkin point of doin it!!!! you ARE gonna lower it right?????? get a dropaxle and get driving!!!!
Secure everything and watch your hands and feet of any heavy "moving parts" It aint surgery but if you dont do it right you could be getting surgery
Beer, yes beer! Only, once the job is done, correctly. If you have beer to lure your friends in, all they do is drink your beer and nothing will get done. If it does get done, something always terrible happens, but that will make for great stories for the future beer drinking sessions.
Borrow a shopping cart, cut the basket off and throw it away. The bottom is more than strong enough and the casters are nice.
After awhile of working by yourself when someone is helping you they'll just be in your way or you'll argue about how to do it. You're better off by yourself...When you get frustrated just walk away for awhile, work on someting mindless, clean parts, whatever, just use patience and above all take every precaution to be safe...
I bought this same one, and its worked out fine...before this, I used a tire too .............Heres a pic of mine in action!!
Yep, get some 2x4's to stack to set it on the ground. When you try to put it on the ground the hoist might 'bottom out' with the engine a foot or two off the ground. That's because you usually have to shorten the chain most of the way to get the engine to clear the radiator support, so you might need a couple of wheels with tires to set it on temporarily to reposition the chain. Since you plan to pull the engine and trans together, use an engine hoist load leveler/balancer, especially if you're gonna try it alone. Thanks, Kurt
Or, to get a better brand of beer. Actually to be serious, working alone is where it is all at. The hobby of vehicle building is a fun, rewarding, do it yourself task. You really do not need spectators until the project is done.
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