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Transmission ID? Zephyr or Packard or Hmmm..Flathead V8?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by sodbuster, Dec 12, 2007.

  1. sodbuster
    Joined: Oct 15, 2001
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    sodbuster
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    from Kansas

    I just drug home the first pile of my new project and the car came with a couple of extra transmissions and an "old ball".......It is a side shift with a Hildebrandt adapter. It looks like the other Ford ******'s that is in my first pile that I drug home, but I am trying to ID the "old ball".

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    Thanks,
    Chris Nelson
    Kansas
     
  2. Rocky
    Joined: Mar 3, 2001
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    Chris...it's a side-shift 39-40 LaSalle trans and the photo is showing it upside down. The cover goes on the bottom of the trans.
    The bearing retainer pocket in the bellhousing gives it away. Don't loose the bearing retainer sleeve that fits in that pocket. YOur throwout bearing rides back and forth on it and it holds the front bearing in place..
    Great ******s but they shift slooooooooooow.
    Gona keep it or sell it?
     
  3. seymour
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    cad... holy **** I NEED that adapter!
     
  4. Paul
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    the tailshaft has been machined to take the Ford U joint
    and the rear of the case has been drilled for the Ford rear mount
    the front bearing on the transmission is held in by the groove in the bell opening,
    the throwout bearing slides on a Ford sleave bolted to the inside of the bell,
    it also uses the Ford shaft style clutch fork and throwout bearing.

    with a flat plate adapter this can fit the Early Cad or Olds motors too.
     
  5. sodbuster
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    sodbuster
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    Keep it for a new project which will be in the garage SOON......and it will go faster than 60 mph down the highway......but, I am still keeping the Model A coupe.

    Chris

    Oh yea, hahaha.......it is upside down............now I feel dumb, but freezing cold........brrrrr......
     
  6. sodbuster
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    sodbuster
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    Sorry I am not going to sell it.
     
  7. Paul
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    just for comparison
    I have a similarly modified Lasalle transmission
    and Offy's version of the same bell
     

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  8. seymour
    Joined: Jan 22, 2004
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    I don't blame ya.... kind of a rare bird, esp a Hildebrandt one... if that thing could talk, bet it'd have some stories
     
  9. sodbuster
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    sodbuster
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    from Kansas

    Are they like the Zephyr ******s? Or why would one put a LaSalle for a replacement for a Ford?

    Chris Nelson
    Kansas
     
  10. jonnycola
    Joined: Oct 12, 2003
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    They're way tougher than a ford.

    Damn, that's like looking at ****.
     
  11. HEATHEN
    Joined: Nov 22, 2005
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    Yes, they are; years ago, I found a '40 Ford sedan with a '53 331 and a shortened LaSalle gearbox. The trans held up well, but the banjo rear was missing about ten teeth.
     
  12. Ole don
    Joined: Dec 16, 2005
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    The gears are nearly twice as wide, and the bearings are bigger. Look at the size of the cars they were made for, nearly twice the weight of an early Ford
     
  13. I would call that trans a column shift, on a side shift the gear shift lever comes out of the side. This is a 38 Lincoln side shift, Moves the gear shift 3" forward and 3.5" to the right or vice versa [​IMG]
     
  14. Very cool Chris!
     

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