Anyone know where I can find the rosters and results from early Bonneville meets? Say 1949 to 1955 or so?
I think I have one or two - One sourse is Albert Drake's "Flat-Out" book. Maybe Dan Warner may have some.
I am going to be talking to Jim Latin tomorrow about a car. He is president of the SCTA and I am sure he will know.
Hey Ryan, I don't have a digital source, so I'll just retype the results from the October 1949 Hot Rod. <html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; ch****t=UTF-8"/><meta name='trixrows' content='101'/><meta name='trixr1' content='0'/><meta name='trixr2' content='77'/><meta name='trixdiv' content='20'/><meta name='trixcnt' content='4'/><meta name='trixlast' content='17'/><link rel=stylesheet href="//spreadsheets.google.com/client/css/1565280913-trix_main.css" type="text/css"><style>.g {text-indent:3px;padding-right:3px;overflow:hidden;white-space:nowrap;letter-spacing:0;word-spacing:0;background-color:#FFFFFF; z-index:1;border-top:0px none;border-left:0px none;border-bottom:1px solid #CCC;border-right:1px solid #CCC;} .dn{display:none} .chip{background-image:url('http://www.google.com/images/spreadsheets/chip.gif'); background-repeat:no-repeat; background-position:top right;} 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s1'>93.84<tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td cl***='g s1'>2<td cl***='g s1'>150<td cl***='g s0'>Bardahl Special<td cl***='g s1'>85.06<tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td colspan=4 cl***='g s0'>Cl*** "A" Streamliners<td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td cl***='g s1'>1<td cl***='g s0'>5-A<td cl***='g s0'>Xydias & Batchelor<td cl***='g s1'>155.17<tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td cl***='g s1'>2<td cl***='g s1'>139<td cl***='g s0'>Hersom Brothers<td cl***='g s1'>117.03<tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td colspan=4 cl***='g s0'>Cl*** "B" Roadsters<td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td cl***='g s1'>1<td cl***='g s1'>69<td cl***='g s0'>Lean & Harrison<td cl***='g s1'>131<tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td cl***='g s1'>2<td cl***='g s1'>39<td cl***='g s0'>Don Olson<td cl***='g s1'>120.64<tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td cl***='g s0'> <td cl***='g s1'>111<td cl***='g s0'>Golden Eagle Spl.<td cl***='g s1'>120.64<tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td cl***='g s1'>3<td cl***='g s1'>351<td cl***='g s0'>Virgil Gardner<td cl***='g s1'>115.97<tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td cl***='g s1'>4<td cl***='g s1'>118<td cl***='g s0'>Eugene Hewitt<td cl***='g s1'>114.94<tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td cl***='g s1'>5<td cl***='g s1'>185<td cl***='g s0'>Ed Greiner<td cl***='g s1'>112.64<tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td colspan=4 cl***='g s0'>Cl*** "B" Lakesters<td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td cl***='g s1'>1<td cl***='g s1'>54<td cl***='g s0'>Spalding Brothers<td cl***='g s1'>141.06<tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td cl***='g s1'>2<td cl***='g s1'>36<td cl***='g s0'>Carrillo & Betz<td cl***='g s1'>139.31<tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td cl***='g s1'>3<td cl***='g s1'>20<td cl***='g s0'>Starr & Alger<td cl***='g s1'>134.12<tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td cl***='g s1'>4<td cl***='g s1'>76<td cl***='g s0'>Clark & Warden<td cl***='g s1'>132.74</table><tr><td><table border=0 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 cl***='tblGenFixed' style='font-size:10pt;' id='tblMain_1'><tr><td cl***='cAll' style='height:0px;width:0px;'></td><td cl***='cAll' style='height:0px;width:64px;'><td cl***='cAll' style='height:0px;width:64px;'><td cl***='cAll' style='height:0px;width:162px;'><td cl***='cAll' style='height:0px;width:64px;'><tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td cl***='g s1'>5<td cl***='g s1'>113<td cl***='g s0'>Downey Brothers<td cl***='g s1'>128.78<tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td colspan=4 cl***='g s0'>Cl*** "B" Streamliners<td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td cl***='g s1'>1<td cl***='g s1'>47<td cl***='g s0'>City of Pasadena<td cl***='g s1'>151<tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td cl***='g s1'>2<td cl***='g s1'>149<td cl***='g s0'>Vesco & Dinkins<td cl***='g s1'>140.4<tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td cl***='g s1'>3<td cl***='g s1'>24<td cl***='g s0'>Jim Lindsey<td cl***='g s1'>137.82<tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td colspan=4 cl***='g s0'>Cl*** "C" Roadsters<td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td cl***='g s1'>1<td cl***='g s1'>100<td cl***='g s0'>John D. Browning<td cl***='g s1'>140.18<tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td cl***='g s1'>2<td cl***='g s1'>12<td cl***='g s0'>Reemsnyder & Sullivan<td cl***='g s1'>136.57<tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td cl***='g s1'>3<td cl***='g s1'>337<td cl***='g s0'>Ansen Engineering Spl. <td cl***='g s1'>134.93<tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td cl***='g s1'>4<td cl***='g s1'>28<td cl***='g s0'>Don McLean<td cl***='g s1'>130.05<tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td cl***='g s1'>5<td cl***='g s1'>38<td cl***='g s0'>Charles Scott<td cl***='g s1'>127.29<tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td colspan=4 cl***='g s0'>Cl*** "C" Lakesters<td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td cl***='g s1'>1<td cl***='g s1'>122<td cl***='g s0'>Don Waite<td cl***='g s1'>150.5<tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td cl***='g s1'>2<td cl***='g s1'>507<td cl***='g s0'>Carrillo & Francisco<td cl***='g s1'>148.76<tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td cl***='g s1'>3<td cl***='g s1'>2<td cl***='g s0'>Doug Hartelt<td cl***='g s1'>139.75<tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td cl***='g s2'><td cl***='g s1'>7<td cl***='g s0'>Paul Schiefer<td cl***='g s1'>139.75<tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td colspan=4 cl***='g s0'>Cl*** "C" Streamliners<td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td cl***='g s1'>1<td cl***='g s0'>5-C<td cl***='g s0'>Xydias & Batchelor<td cl***='g s1'>187.89<tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td cl***='g s1'>2<td cl***='g s1'>250<td cl***='g s0'>Evans Equipment Spl.<td cl***='g s1'>161.87<tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td cl***='g s1'>3<td cl***='g s1'>3<td cl***='g s0'>Burke & Francisco<td cl***='g s1'>158.17</table><tr><td><table border=0 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 cl***='tblGenFixed' style='font-size:10pt;' id='tblMain_2'><tr><td cl***='cAll' style='height:0px;width:0px;'></td><td cl***='cAll' style='height:0px;width:64px;'><td cl***='cAll' style='height:0px;width:64px;'><td cl***='cAll' style='height:0px;width:162px;'><td cl***='cAll' style='height:0px;width:64px;'><tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td cl***='g s1'>4<td cl***='g s1'>8<td cl***='g s0'>Breene & Haller<td cl***='g s1'>152.54<tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td cl***='g s1'>5<td cl***='g s1'>199<td cl***='g s0'>Harold Johansen<td cl***='g s1'>147.54<tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td colspan=4 cl***='g s0'>Cl*** "D" Roadsters<td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td cl***='g s1'>1<td cl***='g s1'>74<td cl***='g s0'>Jot Horne<td cl***='g s1'>122.95<tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td colspan=4 cl***='g s0'>Compe***ion Coupes<td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td cl***='g s1'>1<td cl***='g s1'>200<td cl***='g s0'>Bill Phy<td cl***='g s1'>123.95<tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td cl***='g s1'>2<td cl***='g s1'>193<td cl***='g s0'>Otto Ryssman<td cl***='g s1'>113.25<tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td colspan=4 cl***='g s0'>Spots Car<td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td cl***='g s1'>1<td cl***='g s1'>326<td cl***='g s0'>Kurtis Kraft<td cl***='g s1'>131.19<tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td colspan=4 cl***='g s0'>Race Cars<td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td cl***='g s1'>1<td cl***='g s0'>87-R<td cl***='g s0'>McAlister-Walker<td cl***='g s1'>139.31<tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td cl***='g s1'>2<td cl***='g s1'>172<td cl***='g s0'>Kimes-Gilchrist<td cl***='g s1'>136.15<tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td cl***='g s2'><td cl***='g s2'><td cl***='g s2'><td cl***='g s2'><tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td cl***='g s2'><td cl***='g s2'><td cl***='g s2'><td cl***='g s2'><tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td colspan=4 cl***='g s0'>Record Times<td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td colspan=4 cl***='g s0'>Cl*** "A" Streamliners<td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td cl***='g s2'><td cl***='g s2'><td cl***='g s0'>Xydias & Batchelor<td cl***='g s1'>156.39<tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td colspan=4 cl***='g s0'>Cl*** "B" Roadsters<td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td cl***='g s2'><td cl***='g s2'><td cl***='g s0'>Lean & Harrison<td cl***='g s1'>132.075<tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td colspan=4 cl***='g s0'>Cl*** "B" Lakesters<td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><td cl***='g' style="display:none;"></table><tr><td><table border=0 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 cl***='tblGenFixed' style='font-size:10pt;' id='tblMain_3'><tr><td cl***='cAll' style='height:0px;width:0px;'></td><td cl***='cAll' style='height:0px;width:64px;'><td cl***='cAll' style='height:0px;width:64px;'><td cl***='cAll' style='height:0px;width:162px;'><td cl***='cAll' style='height:0px;width:64px;'><tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td cl***='g s2'><td cl***='g s2'><td cl***='g s0'>Starr & Alger<td cl***='g s1'>134.73<tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td colspan=4 cl***='g s0'>Cl*** "B" Streamliners<td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td cl***='g s2'><td cl***='g s2'><td cl***='g s0'>Jim Lindsley<td cl***='g s1'>117.915<tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td colspan=4 cl***='g s0'>Cl*** "C" Roadsters<td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td cl***='g s2'><td cl***='g s2'><td cl***='g s0'>John D. Browning<td cl***='g s1'>129.69<tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td colspan=4 cl***='g s0'>Cl*** "C" Lakesters<td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td cl***='g s2'><td cl***='g s2'><td cl***='g s0'>Don Waite<td cl***='g s1'>151.9<tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td colspan=4 cl***='g s0'>Cl*** "C" Streamliners<td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td cl***='g s2'><td cl***='g s2'><td cl***='g s0'>Xydias & Batchelor<td cl***='g s1'>189.745<tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td colspan=4 cl***='g s0'>Cl*** "D" Roadsters<td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td cl***='g s2'><td cl***='g s2'><td cl***='g s0'>Jot Horne<td cl***='g s1'>127.565<tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td colspan=4 cl***='g s0'>Compe***ion Coupes<td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td cl***='g s2'><td cl***='g s2'><td cl***='g s0'>Bill Phy<td cl***='g s1'>92.87<tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td colspan=4 cl***='g s0'>Sports Car<td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td cl***='g s2'><td cl***='g s2'><td cl***='g s0'>Kurtis Kraft<td cl***='g s1'>142.515<tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td colspan=4 cl***='g s0'>Race Cars<td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><td cl***='g' style="display:none;"><tr><td cl***='rAll'><P style='height:17px;'/><td cl***='g s2'><td cl***='g s2'><td cl***='g s0'>McAlister-Walker<td cl***='g s1'>144.35</table></table></body></html> Hope that helps... I'll see what else I have after work tonite. Ben
Car numbers reflect your points standings from the previous year, so many cars had the numbers changed a lot. I know today they list the numbers....maybe they were short on space in the magazine?
Yeah... I got it figured. Essentially, all I need is an entry list with car numbers for the 1951 event.
Ryan, Ryan, Ryan - American Hot Rod Foundation, Jim Miller. This site has praised that group in the past. Jim will more than likely have what you want. Jack Underwood, Jack's Garage, is another historian of note. I don't go to Jacks but, I am sure someone on this board has been there a time or two. Tell 'em I sent you, DW
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