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Do they make a dust mask that doesn't fog my safety glasses?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Slide, Dec 20, 2007.

  1. Slide
    Joined: May 11, 2004
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    Getting tired of blowing Black Nasties™ out of my nose every time I come in from the shop.... but if I can't see to grind, brush, sand, etc... what's the point?

    Extra points if it fits behind a welding helmet.

    Thanks!
     
  2. Unkl Ian
    Joined: Mar 29, 2001
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    There is a dust mask available with an exhaust valve built in,for this reason.

    Not much bigger than a regular mask.

    Check upscale woodworking places, like Garret Wade,
    Lee valley Tools,Rockler,Woodworkers Supply,etc.
     
  3. slammed
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    Rain X Anti-fog. Paint mask w/cartridge's will help too. Clumbersome, but no taste the nasty's.
     
  4. Rusty
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    Dang I am blowing black nastys too, Must be a Combine/Crandall thing, glad to hear you have been out in the shop
     
  5. Slide
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    Yeah, the side work and day job stuff slowed down enough to where I could get out there some... not getting as much done as I would like, but at least I'm getting stuff done! Been out there 3-4 nites a week and a few hours each on Sat & Sun.

    Thanks for the replies... I've used my paint respirator some, but it feels big and heavy after a while, and seems like overkill for airborne dust.

    Do the dust masks with the circle valve really make that much difference?
     
  6. Some of the dust masks with an exhaling valve on the bottom have a soft foam piece that goes over your nose and a metal clip that you can bend to try to make it seal. They SOMETIMES work. But sometimes your safety gl***es fog up anyway. If you get safety gl***es that have little vents along the temples, they don't fog up as fast as the non-vented ones.
     
  7. BigChief
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    .....no such thing as overkill when it come to protecting your body from the elements, especially grinding dust. I'd wear the respirator and get used to it.

    -Bigchief.
     
  8. speedtool
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    To keep your gl***es from fogging, clean the lenses first. Then grab a bar of hand soap (no Lava brand w/grit), and rub it generously across the lenses on both sides.
    Buff off the soap - a thin transparent layer acts as a vapor barrier.
     
  9. kustomclassics
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    3m makes ones with the valve #8511.
     
  10. mckustoms
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    Or you could just buy a pair of anti fog safety gl***es. Ace hardware has them for 6 bucks...
     
  11. nexxussian
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    I found this posted here. I bought a box of them at Grainger, haven't checked the math on wether or not I got hosed on the price. I haven't ground on anything or welded since buying them (been out of town). I'm definetly gonna try them out when I do though.
     
  12. Slide
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    I saw that thread too... but it didn't get specific on the fog issue. Definitely let us know how they work.

    Do they really work, or is that a packaging gimmick?
     
  13. Harbor Fright has a dusk mask w/2 charcoal filters that works great.
    I just looked on the Harbor Fright site, did not see them listed.
    I found them in my local store in Wyoming MI. Bob
     
  14. Bert
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    get good quality antifog gl***es is whats needed......the mask is your call.....I sweat like some sort of freaky farm animal and only the good quality gl***es work for me.......Bert
     
  15. NOBILLETA
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    I have been wearing presciption eygl***es my whole life, and have never found an anti fog that works under extreme conditions, I have been using the 3m 8511's for years where I can't fit a real mask, but the double carbon filter mask is much better because it also filters out most vapers. Please! Use something with the most protection you can get. I'm pushing 60, and a lot of my freinds are already pushing up daisies, I think due in part from breathing different forms of **** over the years.:(
     
  16. mckustoms
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    Yep, they work great!
     
  17. FiddyFour
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    hold your breath :D

    the toss out masks with the valve are OK, but they never seem to stay on decently for me... end up with my gl***es either sliding under the top edge of the mask and fogging, or worse, OVER the top of the mask and fallin on the floor!

    on a side note, i switched to a full face shield a while back and really dig it... no more little stingy burnies while grinding and a lot less black n' krusties in my beard... downside is, its gonna fog up with damn near any of the toss out masks and forget a respirator behind em.
     
  18. Shifty Shifterton
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    Keep experimenting with different gl***es. I particularly like the Oakley style with a tilt in the sidearms. You can rotate the gl***es tight to your forehead when the inevitable ****storm has to be endured, or rotate em away to allow heat to rise out.

    Also look at how you breathe. Sharp breaths out overcome the filter and result in steamy gl***es. Breathe smoothly (harder than you think), and experiment with mouth vs nose breathing.

    Using a respirator comfortably requires breathing practice (lol) but pays off. Good luck
     
  19. yekoms
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    This isn't about masks but, I'll throw in a tip about goggles.
    Snow ski goggles work great vented, comfortable, light weight,amber ones cut down glare.
    Have fun,Smokey
     
  20. Ace Brown
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    go to your local Army Navy store and ask if they have gas mask anti fog. My cousin was in the army several years back, he gave me a tube of it. it's about the size of a film canister (remember those?) and it has a little rag inside that's got silica or something in it. i've been using that on my bathroom mirror so it doesn't fog. works great. and it's reuseable.
     
  21. Slide
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    Believe it or not, I've actually been doing that. Nose breathing "smoothly" helps the fog issue, but is nowhere close to resolving it.

    yekoms, what are these snow ski goggles you speak of? What is snow? What is ski? :D
     
  22. 2xcrash
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    Check some of the fire safety sites and use their anti fog. We used some stuf in our haz-mat suits and air masks that worked well. Sorry I can't think of the names.
     
  23. kustombuilder
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    black nasties ****!! and they can stay with you for DAYS!. when i'm smart and think about it i wear my paint respirator. works TONS better than dust masks and is more comfortable too. and i don't have near the problems with my gl***es foggin up. when i'm doing some SERIOUS grinding i'll wear the respirator, saftely gl***es and a clear face shield. :D
     
  24. thatredcaroutside
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    If your using safety gl***es with the wide plastic sides. I always drill some holes on them where they are hinged, usually 2 or 3 holes as big as I can make them.They also help vent out the excess beer g***es.
     
  25. SaltCityCustoms
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    I will second the idea of wiping soap on your lenses, it does work.
     
  26. I know they won't fit behind a welding helmet but we use these at work all the time when we are dealing with coal dust and fly ash. At the end of the day your eyes will thank you.

    I could see if you were going to do a lot of grinding or what not.... going back and fourth between welding and grinding would be a pain.

    http://www.discountsafetygear.com/msaad30re.html
     
  27. I have never been able to make a common respirator seal very well, so I used to get lots of dirty air anyway. I also hated the dead-air feeling they have.

    If it fogs your gl***es, chances are that you will be breathing a lot of what you are wanting to filter out even when you think the filter is doing OK.

    I bought a couple positive pressure respirators with hose.
    I rigged up a bit of 1" plastic pipe that ran into the house where the warm but clean air was.

    It doesn't matter what you use to blow the air, a fan, or what.

    I turn on the fan, let the fresh air run thru for a minute, then have nice fresh air all the time without that dead-air feeling that a "normal" mask gives you.

    This is what you need anyway to paint those poisonous modern paints. I hope people aren't still using the old filters with todays deadly paints.

    This ebay auction shows similar to what I used to make mine.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Set-of-4-Milita...ryZ70985QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

    Even without paints, I use these for any really dusty work. You can be pretty sure that any filter that doesn't have at least a little positive air blowing thru will let in at least a little dusty air around the edges when you breathe in.

    Even if there were no other advantage, I like the fresh-air feeling compared to the dead-air feeling that the normal masks have. I can wear one of these a lot longer than I can any of the older "non-positive-pressure" styles.

    The ones I use do not have the clear face covers that these have. Mine are just the nose-and-mouth type where I wear my own safety gl***es. Once in a while you can find new ones fairly cheap on ebay if you look around every once in a while. I think I paid only about $30 for each of mine. Just plug it into a clean fresh-air source, like a pipe and a fan-in-a-box or something. I have been using mine for several years.
     

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