Rod and Custom just made me angry!!! really angry!!!

Now that I know, think I'd just mark it "REFUSED" and throw it back in the mailbox. I like to decide, and don't like to be sold.

 

I was afraid that you might catch some flack about this but I went ahead anyway. I figured it would get closed in a short time.

If I send it back with a brick or a nasty note then they know that 1 person dislikes their approach. If they have half a brain they know how many people with similar interests (their market) read this. It's pretty obvious to me that even the people that don't bitch...don't like the idea very much either.

When they ask for it back I won't know because I won't open anything from them again. I won't know when my subscription will expire so it will just stop coming whenever that date comes.

If I didn't have a 50 year love affair with the magazine I wouldn't care so much.

It may be childish on my part but damn I hate somebody trying to force me to do something that they want me to do just so that they can sell their DVDs.

If I want it I'll go to their web site so that they won't think it was a result of their sleazy marketing.

AOL never asked for their floppies back.

 

I'm with you Tommy, don't send me crap I didn't ask for and then expect me to pay for it. That's just slimy. I got the Hot Rod DVD awhile back and I've never watched it. Last year they sent me the cheesiest plastic clock in the mail, what a piece of crap. All this along with the AOL disks and the National Wildlife stamps and notecards is all just going into a landfill. What a waste of natural resources.

 

They just sent me the video ALSO ... I not going to waste my time or effort to send it back ... Terrible marketing ...plan

 

Im hurt!!

Ive subscribed to R&C for many years, and didn't get a DVD

 

Sell it on Ebay. Somebody who didn't get one may like to have it. Start the bidding at..... hmmm... $4,999. Ya never know.

 

I just got R&C and I was at Barnes and Noballs looking at mags and read the same article. Funny, never saw a Ryan name in any of the credits. Must have forgotten to fill out the card on his windshield.

 

I was thinking the same thing. Wonder what some guys do when there's REALLY something important going down ????

 

Tommy, I'm with you on this one. If they see in print how much their stupid tactics piss people off maybe they will change. Throwing the stuff away does no good. Probably doesn't do much good to send it back useing their nickle either, that eventially just raises the price of the mag. I hate junk mail. And worse then that I hate phone solicitations. I usually tell them I need a pencil and paper to take notes, lay the phone down, and go back to whatever I was doing. Bastards always call at dinner time.

 

I got the DVD from ***ROD magazine last year. I just ignored the letter to return the DVD.

I donated the DVD to my son's high school auto shop class. I figured they might get some use out of it.

Tom

 

i've gotten TWO dvd's one.........one from HOT ROD and one rrom ROD and CUSTOM! lucky me!!! haven't watched the R&C yet. THANX PETERSEN PUBLISHING...................BUT DON'T L@@k FOR ME TO BUY INTO THE SUBSCRIPTION DEAL!

BY-THE-WAY..............when the STREET RODDER telemarketer called about extending my subscription i told them i'd already spoken with another of their 'people' several months ago, PLUS, I TOLD THEM THAT I HAD EVERY ISSUE----[i indeed have all issues from year one---volume one]--- that the bill had not arrived, and i was concerned about losing even one issue, they asked about the price i was qouted i told them it was $48 for 2 years, they gave me a 3 year deal for $42 because they did want to lose me as a suscriber! i was more than happy to hook-up for that good price!!!

BETTER YET------------whenever i get a copy with a torn cover OF A CAR MAGAZINE i call the 800 customer service number and demand another copy. in a month or so the copy comes in a plain brown envelope. i got all my magazines catalogued and set aside as reference material.

I'VE GOT OVER 40 YEARS OF CAR MAGAZINES IN MY COLLECTION

red ryder has a THING about car magazines!

 

I got an offer like this in the mail.. it was a NASCAR DVD with a Sam Bass collector coin. I think it was an intro to a series of DVDs... and they expected me to pay for it or send it back. But they can't legally do that. I just kinda forgot about it, and they sent like 2 or 3 reminders.. and finally one comes that I open and it says to the effect of that of course I don't have to pay for the DVD but they really wish I would pay for it and sign up for their DVD series.

I thought that was a shitty way to do business, because if you didn't know any better you'd pay for the thing and be signed up with them for more crap.

What I don't get is most of these companies aren't exactly doing poorly, why do they feel like they need to trick people to get more money out of them? I guess it comes back to them being publicly held companies that always need to increase the bottom line for the shareholders.

 

It's too bad Primedia is run by such a bunch of dumbasses. They have some good editors and writers for the magazines, but the corporate suits are obviously brain dead. I normally wouldn't be writing this, but I'm trying out all my Christmas beer.

 

I just got my DVD up here in the redwoods yesterday. I think I'll watch it, and send it back, with as many lead wheel weights as I can find that will fit in the envelope.

Rod & Custom, I have been subscribing since the Tom Medley days.
Congrats, you just lost a long-time subscriber.

 

No shit, primedia is the problem here. Not R&C

I love the magazine, and subscribed to two years worth, pre-paid.
A whole year went by, and I didn't get NUTTIN'.... I know I am overseas, so I have to be patient and all, but then one day I got a renewal notice, saying I received my last issue and was about to get cut off.

I didn't even get the junk mail. Just the literary version of them holding out their hungry hands... fuckers.

So why do people pay news stand prices? Because they can get the issue in their hot grubby hands AT THE TIME without dicking around.

 

Insert grown man crying here*

 

I got the first dvd from hot rod and have not renewed just because of the gestapo reminders about paying or sending it back. I haven't checked the mail but i'm willing to guess I'll be giving up R&C too.

If I want it i'll ask you for it. If I don't know about it leave me the fuck alone.

 

The DVD doesn't bother me... if you read the fine print you only need to return the disc itself - the case is yours to keep!

My confusion with them is that I have a three year paid subscription and I got a "one year - one time price - renew now" letter / offer with mine. I called them up and asked when my subscription expires and the gal told me 10/2010... but if I wanted to "extend" it for another year...

Checking the date on my current issue though I will probably receive my last issue sometime in the spring of 2009!

 

so no one mentioned here yet that newstand R/C/ mags get a free 2008 calendar
I get 7 count em 7 primemedia mags a a month double up on the subs at the bigger shows .... but nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnoooooooooooooooooo free anything except the dvd .. ?????????????????? WHICH I'D HAVE TO GO GET A DVD PLAYER TO SEE..

 

I'm still laughing that someone actually contacted Kevin Lee over this.

Be sure to pm him some hate over the annoying drop-out sub cards too. He's just as responsible for that.

Ad is ad and edit is edit and never the twain shall meet.. orsomeshitlikedat

Here are some smileys in case my words make you really angry.

 

At least PETERSON sends the subscriptions you pay for...What a novel customer service technique~

 

All my cars are old.
I don't own a microwave oven.
I detest electronic fuel injection...

But you don't have a DVD player? Holy crap, I think they give em away in cheerios boxes these days. Won't the PC you are tapping on play it?

 

I'M MAD AS HELL AND I CAN'T TAKE IT ANY MORE!!! I can't belive theres 5 pages about this shit,or that I'm contributing to it.

 

MMMMMMMMMMMMMM porn,No that was really car related,yea car related.............OH,as far as the dvd,i got it,never watched it ,lost it ,forgot about it untill i saw this............... OH well.time to fix my exploded transmission. See ya.

 

Yes your right, Kevin Lee is not responsible for the DVD. And my one little PM I'm sure seemed out of left field to him, I knew he would read a message on here. But still one PM would mean nothing alone. Now add this thread and Kevin might say "wait a minute".
OK so now it's a much bigger impact with the marketing department if the Editor asks about the reason for the DVD than my one e-mail I sent to the marketing department.

And the annoying drop-out sub cards I just stick them in the mail so the corporation can pay the postage and throw them away for me.

 

Or somebody from the "Knobodys" sent it

Fuck "Rod Magazine" I almost bought my dad a sub for Christmas and then saw how they snubbed Ryan and the Jalopy Journal in the Revolution coverage (Bertilson is as guilty as well). So, I got him a sub to a different magazine.

Then there is the sceme where a certain editor tried to drive HAMB traffic to "Rod Magazines" website via the HAMB.......................

 

THAT WAS FUCKIN BULLSHIT HOW THEY DIDNT MENTION RYAN OR THE HAMB !!!
THAT WAS HIS BABY!


my latest issue came wrapped in a cover saying the next issue is my last....

,,,oh well.......thanks for the warning!

 

Hang the DVDs in your garden, scares the birds away (no shit).
I was wondering why there was no mention of Ryan, the J.J. or the HAMB in that article.

 

I guess I am lucky as they have not sent me anything.I have been a subscriber for at least 5 years.