Traditional can come in the all wheel drive form

Here's HAMB challenge... talking about an AWD/4WD car without getting O/T!

So I was thinking about AWD cars for whatever reason this morning and remembered seeing a 32 3-window coupe (I think) sometime in the early 90's. Then I got to thinking that I remembered seeing some early racers that were AWD as well.

http://www.4wdonline.com/ClassicCars/Miller.html







I couldn't find any pictures of the more recently built "Str**t Rod" that I mentioned in the beginning. Anyone have some to share or know anything about the car I speak of?

Hmmmm.... how about a traditionally styled all wheel drive, heavily chopped coupe using the technology of the racer above?

Okay... enough thinking. I should be doing other things. Thinking only gets me in trouble. Thought it might be an interesting topic for discussion though.

 

Sure beats the old AMC Concords! Thats a pretty stylish setup there.
I think those Rzeppa joints were designed in the late 1800s? (CV joints)

 

I think it was Troy Trepanier's, purple and yellow, porsche front axles, all wheel duece? or something. It was in HotRod iirc.

edit: QuadraDuece

 

flat fender jeeps are traditional AWD vehicles. whoopee....

The abomination you speak of was used by Summit for years as a promotional car....looked really sweet with the same size rubber band tires front and rear! something like quadradeuce was it's name

 

I believe you may be referring to Quadraduece - The Quadra-Duece has basically lived two lives so to speak. Mark Stielow built it from scratch in the mid-90's, after a few years out of the lime-light it was shipped off to Rad Rides for a pre-discovery channel Troy Makeover.
Here is the only photos I could find, this is the "Troy" edition
http://www.staubinauto.com/index.html

I remember Summit Racing did a "Quadra Duece II" roadster as well.

I personally don't think much of either car, but perhaps because I despise the idea that cars should be trailered and displayed some seem to think. If it was made to be driven, drive it. If it was created to be art, it should sit in a museum and those who care can go there to look.

Hope this helps....

 

I think 53 sled is right, Troy Trepanier made a 4-wheel drive car.

You might also think about the way that the Miller front wheel drive cars were set up. I don't think they ever did a 4-wheel drive version but Fur Buscuit or Bluto would probably know. There was experimentation with it in race situations back in the 30s. Also I think that the Jeep that was mentioned before gave up parts to make other trys before. Can't remember where I read that, but I think it is true.

 

Yep! The nasty white and purple Quadradeuce was what I was thinking of. Thanks. A car to be noted, yet not desired in my opinion. I hate trailer cars too. I know that pretty much doesn't need to be debated around here. I believe that's a mutual feeling! LOL!

So, what do you guys know about the earlier AWD concepts? What were they using for drive trains to put all four wheels up to bat? Jeep drive train parts?

 

Jeeps came along after the race cars, I'd guess that they made their own parts for that stuff.

 

Yeah, this is true.

Would love to see some close ups and get the 101 on early AWD racers. I wonder how much of an advantage it really was for such a light car. I wonder if their setups allowed for power transfer without a great deal of HP loss in the added transfer case and gear assemblies.

 

QuadraDeuce was based on a GMC Cyclone/Typhoon chassis, not Porsche.
The original version was much better than the Trepanier restyled abortion.

 

Are you sure that "FWD" on the old racer didn't inducate it was a "front wheel drive" like the old Cords were? Almost looks like a Cord drive axle. Gene

 

I have some AWD/FWD Ideas for a daily for my wife. We talked about em in the chat a couple weeks ago but since they used modern underpinnings I would never talke in depth here. The Rodding Roundtable is a great forum for that. Good folks there.

 

scooter you have way to much time on your hands..and you think to much..LOL

 

50dodge-

Miller did some experimentation with 4wd, in both race and "street" versions (the roadster is good looking- wish I had a pic)- I believe the race car Scooter posted is one of them.

Scooter- I agree with dirthawker...

get back to work on the Murray

 

You could go "traditional" with a 35-48 Ford coupe, roadster/convertible, or woodie that has the Marmon-Herrington AWD chassis under it.

 

A few years ago at the Saratoga NY Auto Museum, there was a 4WD big sprint car. It had Jeep axles and a transmission/transfer case of the makers own design. The builders name was something like Bettencourt I think. I thought it was pretty cool. I remember looking it up on the internet but now I can't find it. I have a few Willys parts trucks for my plow truck and I think parts from them would make a great hot rod. Dana 44 rear, pedal assy, steering and maybe a straight 6 F-head motor.

 

I swear I remember reading that the axles, not the front diff, were porsche but that was when I was 13, so maybe I was mistaken.

 

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more AWD cars in the 1969 F1 season.
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Here is some detail pics of the Front drive unit off of the FWD miller

 

Oh yah, I got those pics from here http://www.milleroffy.com/Photo & Sound Gallery.htm

 

WOW! Cool! Thanks DLipp! Good stuff!!

Yeah, yeah... back to work!

 

Cool thread. I miss read it at first and thought it was a Art challenge to design a AWD racecar. Cool non the less.