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steering problem model a roadster

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by breal, Jan 3, 2008.

  1. breal
    Joined: Apr 20, 2007
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    i built a beefy frame and have a all steel roadster 29...is it too heavy to use a reversed corvair..or any other suggestions have to stick to traditional style steering..thanks
     
  2. chaddilac
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    Nope, that's one of the typical steering boxes everyone uses for model a's.
     
  3. bonesy
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    I used this set up with no problems on my A coupe. The box even polished up nice too.
     
  4. breal
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    is there a better box to use
     
  5. AnimalAin
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    Vega. Compact, available and effective.
     
  6. Mr48chev
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    If you are intending to run a traditional drag link I would say run the Corvair style box. If you want to run a cross steer setup run the Vega style.

    It is recommended that one runs a panhard rod when using the cross steer.
    The rest of the group will probably come up with some more ideas pros an cons for each.
     
  7. Zombie Hot Rod
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    Some guys use '65-'67 (?) Mustang Boxes for a front to back set up... I'm ***uing that you're not hell bent on "traditional" stuff since your first option was the covair box.

    There are also some late '50's Chevy boxes that would work in a simular fashion, an F1 Ford box, there's plenty of options...

    Or you can go all out anf run a Shroeder steering gear through the side of the cowl.
     
  8. What is a "beefy frame?"
     
  9. Kevin Lee
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    Also, what is a "traditional draglink"?

    Cross steer still uses a drag link and Fords from '35 all the way to '48 were cross steer in stock form. It's the F1 and F100 boxes that were side steer and those boxes were adapted to a lot of hot rods... but there were plenty of cross steer cars out there too. Lately I have seen anything used as side steer labeled "traditional steering" and I consider it a misnomer.
     
  10. bonesy
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    You can see the Corvair box in this shot - it withstood the weight of the iron head 502 over it.

    Not that the Corvair was bad, but on my old '32 I used a Vega - it had much better road manners.

    [​IMG]
     
  11. zombo27
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    "Beefy Frame, it's what's for dinner."
     
  12. breal
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    thanks for the help...and a beefy frame means its made real nice and strong
     
  13. Why does the type of frame manufacturing makes it too heavy to use the Vega box? I have seen Vega boxes in boxed 32 frames with Hemis , BBC , and FE's sitting in them with no problems.
     
  14. 392_hemi
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    Vega boxes are not recommended over a certain weight. I think something like 2500 lb. Using one in a closed car with a hemi (or other big block) is probably pushing it.
     
  15. breal
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    i used thick walled 2x4 tubing its a little heavier than normal thats the only reason,and it has suicide front end
     
  16. jusjunk
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    Well then front end pretty much rules out a vega box then.. If i remember right though there were some guys mounting vega boxes on the top of the frame rail and using them.. Ive always thought the corvair boxes were pretty light but then what the **** do i know :D
    Dave
     
  17. Kevin Lee
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    I'm confused. Please explain.
     
  18. Do you have a photo of your frame you can post?
     
  19. Lucky77
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    Early Mustang like 64-66 works well with the traditional/side steer setup. You mount the box upside down and the pitman arm swings fore and aft from the bottom of the framerail.
     
  20. jusjunk
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    Well i just guess it would have to be mounted pretty far forward with a suicide front thats all.. Sorry I thought bout that a little more and it can be done but the box needs to be pretty far forward to keep everything in the right perspective.. Im not a fan of side steering and im not a fan of suicide fronts either but again thats just me:D.. **** C9 is the one getting **** about the beefy frame :D:D.. Me I like beefy cause light weak **** kills..
    Dave
     
  21. Model A Vette
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    Has anyone used a Mustang, Maverick or the similar 63-81 Corvette box for a cross steer box?
    This would seem to give more space next to the motor as the gear portion of the box would be on top of the frame.
     
  22. Fenders
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    I have a 65 - 66 Mustang steering box and it looks like it would work fine on my Model A for cross steer. I too wuld like to hear comment from those who have done so.

    I have no clue about using it for side steer as Lucky 77 says, unless it is mounted on the outside (!!) of the frame. Maybe I don't understand....

    fenroo
     
    Last edited: Sep 29, 2008

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