Would you attempt building these cars???

I've been paging through "da-bay" for some parts and ran across these cars from New York.

Would anyone attempt to get these cars road worthy....?

I'm from Wisconsin and have worked with rusty cars... but this is crazy... the frames are paper thin and there isn't a decent part on the whole friggen car!

Whats crazier yet is that the 34 has a "Buy now" of $7,500 and the Model A has a $2,500 tag on it!

There are some very talented people on this board and have gained their skill saving ruff artifacts like these because they couldn't afford to buy a decent body and ended up getting rough projects for only a few dollars.

In my honest opinion... These are "Very Rough" and are appear to be the most aggressive projects I've seen...! But they would be great projects for the right price.

In my opinion... these aren't reasonably priced...!

But I do have to say I really love the photos of these cars!

 

They look to be a bit too far gone but Ive seen some crazy shit done very well here.

 

The seller of those is on this board and thinks they are perfectly buildable and made of gold and will probably post in this thread to defend their value. This came up a month or so ago when he had those cars on there the first time.

 

These cars would make great artificial reefs!!!

 

I have seen some rusty cars but those take the cake, but there are definatley lots of good parts on the Sedan and all those axles around the cars

 

Somehow I knew what I was going to see when I saw the title of this thread.

That '34 has been posted on here several times already, and the opinions run from 'it's junk, scrap it' to 'someone with skills would be happy to have it' ..

The Model A is mine personally, and there's plenty enough to build a car from - it was put together as a pickup, I picked up the shitty tudor back half with the idea of making a tub, since the lower parts of it are pretty decent, the subrails are all there. But I can't sit it flat on the existing A frame because the body has brackets for the bumper support that are also on the frame, they conflict. But plenty of folks seemed to think it was doable when I posted pictures of the back half when I first got it. I also picked up two good doors that need no rust work at all for it. That's what you see sitting on the ground in front of it. The hood came with the good A frame I picked up a couple years ago, it just needs paint.

I had some clown come up and look at my good A frame the other day, wasted a trip out there to be told a frame that was on a running, driving car "wasn't quite good enough" to use, apparently he was too lazy to give it a quick blast and paint job, or some POR-15. These cars aren't for lazy people or for people looking for a quick project - they're for people who know how to fabricate and enjoy taking the time to make things themselves. If you expect to buy some rust free car for cheap, you're looking in the wrong place.

I haven't even listed the newest tudor body we have up there, because I want to put it on a full-frame doodlebug and make a car out of it. The last tudor we had was only a few steps better than that pile you posted here, and it sold for $2500 no problem, dented door, bullet holes, no rear fenders, tore up hood, bad motor and all.

I see one of the usual clowns has chimed in ahead of me. Do I really have to go through explaining asking prices, selling prices, and so on and so forth again? I don't really want to. On this board, people should be smart enough to understand that, and just move on if the price is too high or they expect to pay the price for sitting in it and getting their picture taken instead of the price to buy it. If you don't like them, just ignore them, don't open your mouth and prove to us all you're a fool.

I keep stuff listed that's mine and stuff that belongs to my friend where we both keep all the cars. I put them on with asking prices he wants, or that would make me happy to sell it at. We sell plenty of cars and parts over the course of a year, some stuff that guys like the one that posted above would absoloutly shit himself over the idea that someone would restore it, and pretty much don't have to sell any of it if we don't want to. It's an eBay store, the listings renew automatically, and you really have to dig to find them if I don't run something in the flat-fee categories.

 

If they are so desireable to him.Why hasent he built them.If they were mine.They would just stay the way they are as Yard art.Too far gone.

 

Gold does not rust.

 

I know that sellers stuff. I peruse his listings and add pictures to my rusty car file on my computer. I think he should go out to where the cars are and take several nice shots of each one and put them on CD. I'd buy one. old rusty cars pics are cool. maybe make a book.

 

PT Barnum was a Saint.

 

We have 300 cars up there, my style is to gather parts together until I can go thrash on something and get it pretty well done in one shot. If it sells first, it sells first, if not, it sits until I get around to it.

And to be honest, I have a short attention span when it comes to projects, I get one, mess with it, get bored with it, and get another one.

I probably should add that when I do sell one the money usually goes back into buying more cars. That blue A would be scrap now if I hadn't bought it and about 30 other cars out of a yard near Little Falls in 2006. I was literally buying, listing on eBay, selling, and going up and buying more. The '34 was 400 yards from any sort of road and took 100' of cable to winch it out.. the A back-half we had to hand carry about 75 feet out of the same gully.

Guys whine all the time about finding stuff, but I don't see many making the effort to save them. Then again I can see why, because about once a month someone posts the ugliest two or three on here and I get shit for them for about 75% of the thread (eg. "made of gold" "makes a good reef" "too far gone"). Sometimes it makes me wonder why I bother, if I saved my money and just spent it on one car, I'd have a nice one by now. But I get out there and screwing around with something and sit in one for a few minutes and remember that I do it because I love old cars and I'd rather see them safe in that field, than crushed 12" tall on the way to the shredder. And because once in a while I meet people who aren't afraid to tackle a project that needs a bunch of fab work done, so they're more than happy to buy something and build it.

 

Model A parts and whole at www.rufusranch.com for those who want another ave.

 

The Tudor does look like a decent candidate for a "tub" project...

...but how pissed at yourself would you have to be to try to save that '34? If that SOB was free & all you had in it when it was done was your time...... you'd still be in too damn deep.

I'd run that one on Ebay at no reserve & be happy with whatever it brought.

JH

 

Yup

 

Looks like great "Barn-Yard-Art", but for much less, i.e. $14.95 ea ??

 

I would consider both of those cars worthy of being cut up to save a better car. Asking $2500 for that A is insane. It's a $200 parts car at best. A good A tudor needing store bought patch panels is worth $2500. '33-'34 coupe /roadster stuff will always fetch high dollar because someone is always sitting on additional marginal stuff.

 

Bend over when you buy that rust!!!!! Yard art at best..

 

You guys must have short memories. Can't you recall some of the crap he was peddling when he first joined this board. Stuff that wouldn't hold together until you got it to the crusher was being hyped as "rare oval track artifacts". "same shit, another day" comes to mind.

Frank

 

Well, if it was mine to do with what I wanted, I'd have taken the first cash offer and been done with it. That's what I did with the Skylark, and I finally sold the '37 Willys to the first guy to offer me cash for it. But it's not my car, and my friend takes the attitude that he'd rather start high and wait and find the one guy with more money than brains, because you can always come down. Which sometimes works. This is the second one of these he's had - the other one was worse, if that's possible, it sat on it's side in the mud for 50 years, was rottier and missing more parts - and some guy in Indiana still paid $5500 for it, like 5 years ago.

It has a great frame, but not many guys want a stock frame, and I see repop quarters on eBay for $3500 (and not selling) so replacing them is big $$$. He's seen doors alone for sale with asking prices over $2000 - this has one good door, they didn't post the picture of the other side of it. You could probably part it out between the door, frame, and one windshield post and get close to half the asking price. The subrails are good in the floors, too. I mean, I helped load the damn thing on the truck - I don't think it's as bad as people make it out to be, the hardest thing you'd have to fab up is the upper left cowl, the rest can be bought or is fairly simple shapes. Or wait and find one that sat on the right side, and weld the two up the middle.

The bottom line is there's probably one guy out there somewhere willing to offer enough that my friend will take it as a fair price - but you're not going to find that in a 7 day eBay auction. But when guys email him up asking for pictures, we can send them there and it makes it easy to show to them and also lets them see we have other stuff besides. I finally had to mark the pictures in the auction to show the 31 a behind it was sold.

And like I said, I just do what I'm asked.

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The hood on the A is worth an easy $100 all by itself, if you think you're going to buy a car like that for $200, you're nuts. Maybe in 1967, but it hasn't been 1967 for a long time. I sold a cowl, two doors and a sedan back wall/top tin for $500 a while back and the guy was happy to get them - the car they came off of was so bad I pulled the body off with my bare hands. The only plus was the doors didn't need patch panels. Heck, the same doors only with shiny paint I see marked $150 at bigger shows. More if they're coupe doors. That right door in the pic is just about perfect, except the paint's rough. I sold a bare cowl for a Murray body sedan (or whatever one the tank's not part of the cowl) for $75 a while before I got all this stuff, too. Is this parts collection worth $2500? Maybe not. Like I already said once in this thread, do I need to explain the concept of the asking price again?

That's what gets me on this board. The same guys who have been pasting together parts and tin from a dozen different cars to build one act like some kind of snobs staring down their nose at these cars. It's like they awaken people's inner asshole. They forget very simple concepts like asking prices and bargaining, and forget any inkling of what parts and pieces bring in today's market. That to build one you might replace or build half the same pieces that are rotted or missing, doesn't even matter. I get a laugh out of it sometimes, because these people can't realize how stupid and lazy they sound.

Lets not forget the guys who can't forget, but never read anything, either; the last post refers to a '35 Ford stock car that belongs to the same guy as the '34. He put a price on it that makes him happy - he doesn't care if it sells or not. That's about the 50th time I've said that, too. And it held up pretty well coming from Virgina to New York.

 

If it were free, maybe build a cool jalopy outa the 34. Its not free so even I would say no. the model A dont look all that bad. Its a $500 car around here.

 

I would try to salvage the cars try to work out a better deal with the guy mabe if you talk to him for a while he will open up and sell it to you cheaper. Then hack it all together and drive the piss out of it .

 

Those pictures make me really appreciate the cars i've put aside for future projects so I don't have to deal with bidding.

 

If Jim Sibley wouldnt try and save it, its yard art at best.

End of story.

 

the car is worth what someone is willing to pay for it. As for junk...that's another mans opinion.

I started with garbage, but with hard work and determination...I got what I think is a pretty cool/new car.

People have taken worst and made awesome cars out of them.

How much patience do you have? I used parts from 5 other cars to build this one the way it is. Parts (whole back half) from places as far as Pennsylvania. Im in So. Cal.

Would you belive it though, Im still in this car under $5k.

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All I gotta say is my '29 Plymouth was in worse shape, but then again, I only traded a rearend for it so I can't complain...

 

They look better than anything I've ever started with but then again I'm fucking nuts.

 

Ive done lots of metal work over the years, and I have started with far less than that. I would not attempt to tackle these cars unless you can weld your ass off, and have some metal working experience. Just my .04

 

Well ....I ain't gonna blast you about it. True...there rough...but shit, look where they been at and how fuckin old they are. Some guys have started with a hellofa lot worse and worked their asses off and made it nice. Just depends on how bad do ya want it. LMAO......."whats is your wallet ".....ROFLMAO..

 

aint noth'n bondo can't fix.

 

There are greedy opportunists everywhere. Sure glad I buy my cars where they don,t rust like that.