Hey guys...does anyone know if the later ('63, '64) manual transmissions such as the 3 spd full synchro and the 4 spd full synchro transmissions will bolt up to the 144/170 inline 6 motors? Or, do the 200 ci and bigger inline sixes have a different input shaft size or different bellhousing? I'd like to try and find one of the manual 4 speed transmissions known as a "Power Flow- 4 speed floor-shift" that were in '64 Falcons and Rancheros. I also have been told of a early Bronco toploader transmission that is bullet proof and will bolt right up to the early Falcon/Ranchero sixes....anyone heard of this? Thanks for your input in advance. If anyone knows or happens to have one local lying around, i'd be interested. I'd like to be able to cruise with highway traffic and lower my rpms while i'm at it without having to go the T-5 tranny upgrade route. I picked up this nice little stock 3 spd 60-62 manual tranny for my Ranchero to replace the dead box in it now. This has an old Hurst floor shift setup and is great so if i can't find a better box, i've got this one to throw in the truck. I've also included a picture of the "power flow" 4spd as found in the falcon shop manuals.
the 4 speed is a maid in England, light duty not much stronger than the 3 speed,later blocks have 2 bolt patterns on the back to take the later, better trans/ bell,
The earlier 170 & 200 blocks - @ 1965 and earlier, only accept the "small bell" 2.77 3spd/Dagenham 4spd tranny bell. The later blocks were "dual drilled" and could use the early bell or the larger "3.03" synchro 3spd and other "Toploader" trannys. ------------ The 4Spd you show from the Ford book is the British "Dagenham" 4spd. It was only used behind the sixes and I don't think with the 200. I used one in my '63 Wagon after removing the 2.77 3spd. The 4 spd Dagenham was fun witht the "Hypo" reverse lockout shifter but without Overdrive, the 3.50 rear / six - topped out @ 60. = - Here's the early and later bells: --- Early 2.77: LAter 3.03: -------------------------------------- - Small 2,77 on left and Dagenham on Rt Here's the larger 3.03 3spd setup from a'71 Maverick Here's the Dag:
Early Bronco's use the same standard 3.03 RAN 3 speed that was used in everything else mid 60's through early 70's, except a stubby output and no tailshaft or speedo gear because it bolts to a transfer case. 6cyl and V8 trans' do have different gear ratios though. A 3 speed from a truck or Econoline would be an easier choice than the Bronco trans. The bellhousing to trans bolt pattern is the standard Ford pattern. Edit: from the previous post I see early blocks used a different bellhousing pattern. The Bronco used the later pattern.
watch out for diffeent lenghts on the output shaft aswell... i busted the trans in my 63 comet, and got one from a falcon and it was about 2 inches longer... had to shorten the drive shaft.
funny you should mention that....i just got my broken tranny out of my '62 Ranchero a couple of hours ago, and the tail shaft is about 2 inches longer than my replacement so i'm now having to swap output shaft and housing to make the "new" replacement tranny work...bogus. I could probably use the shorter shaft and just throw it in there but it looks like there wouldn't be alot of bite from the drive shaft input mating to the tranny....DAMN. oh well....wish me luck. i'm gonna try and do this tonight so i can drive by tomorrow evening. i'm basically having to rebuild this tranny in my kitchen on the linoleum floor lol.
I put one of those "little" 4 speed transmissions behind a 144 in a 60 Falcon back in the late 60's. The car was much more fun to drive, but like the 3 speed, high gear is still 1 to 1. I remember the transmission was bolted to the bell housing from the inside and it was a little more difficult to install, bell housing AND transmission together. The car was a lot more fun to drive after I installed a hot 289 and T-10 and big rear end and new front suspension and and and.......... Good Luck
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