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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by osf.666, Jan 20, 2008.

  1. osf.666
    Joined: Oct 25, 2007
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    osf.666
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    from H806 Texas

    Im looking for a kit to get started with. any help?
     
  2. chaddilac
    Joined: Mar 21, 2006
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    chaddilac
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  3. Lil' Billy
    Joined: Dec 9, 2006
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    Lil' Billy
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    from Georgia

    Go to the local hobby/art store...**** Blick, Michael's, etc...and pick up a brush and 2 cans of 1-shot. The brush with be with the lettering brushes if you're in **** Blick. For more info/hints check out the pinhead lounge or sketchkult.
     
  4. Unkl Ian
    Joined: Mar 29, 2001
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    Unkl Ian

    Most "beginner kits" are put together by the sales department.

    I would suggest a 000 mack Series 10,
    a couple cans of 1-Shot Lettering Enamel(black and White are good),
    and a can of 1-Shot High temperature Reducer for Striping.

    Try Earlmich.com for all of these,they will ship.
     
  5. FrankBoss
    Joined: Jun 29, 2007
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    any ideas on what type or size of brush to get to start? is one shot a old style enamel.

    FrankBoss
    New merchandise at
    www.PintoWorks.com
     
  6. Unkl Ian
    Joined: Mar 29, 2001
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    Unkl Ian

    1-Shot is a Alkyd Enamel commonly used by Sign Painters and Pinstripers.
    Other brands are Chromatic,and Ronan.

    For brush recomendations,see my earlier post.
     
  7. FrankBoss
    Joined: Jun 29, 2007
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    I was wondering I have a gallon of Ronan that i use to paint aluminum.
    Any ideas on a brush....Size? How do you properly take care of a brush when in storage?
    I always wanted to do striping, but never been around any sign guys or stripers.

    FrankBoss

    New merchandise at
    www.PintoWorks.com
     
  8. osf.666
    Joined: Oct 25, 2007
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    osf.666
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    from H806 Texas

    what about a video or book?
    or should I just wing it? I live in a pretty small town
    so I dont think ill find much help here.
     
  9. pimpin paint
    Joined: May 31, 2005
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    pimpin paint
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    from so cal

    Hey,

    Like Unk Ian said "most kits are put together by the sales department"! Ya don't need alot of gear to get a start- A
    brush, I like a Mack OO for starters, some thinner & a few
    pints of paint. Check the Mack Brush Company site, the
    automotive art sites, and artist supply stores for books &
    how to tapes/dvds. Learn to load the brush and pull a good,
    straight line before going on to loops and turns. I was told
    by "The Great Santini " to pratice on broom sticks 'till I could
    pull two flawless lines the length of a stick, than go on to the
    other " numbers".
    Learning striping is alot like learning to play a "gee-tar" a
    pratice session everyday, mastering the "basics" ,followed
    by design study.

    Good luck,

    S****ey devils c.C.
     
  10. misfit36
    Joined: Aug 8, 2007
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    misfit36
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    from new york

    i recently started. still practicing my straight lines. i went to kustom kulture gallery owned by a great guy kieth. he runs the sketchkult website.

    my materials:
    00 mack
    000 mack
    black one shot, red one shot
    odorless mineral spirits ( for thinning and cleaning ) * odorless because i practice in my apartment.
    baby oil for brush preservation * use alittle after cleaning to preserve the brush shape as well as keep any paint i couldnt get out from drying up.

    as far as storing ive heard the best way is to keep the brush flat, preferably on a material that wont "****" out the brush.

    i also used the video "wizards basic pinstriping"

    good luck and practice till your eyes bleed
     
  11. Unkl Ian
    Joined: Mar 29, 2001
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    Unkl Ian

    I've seen two GOOD books,on how to pinstripe.
    The new one from Alan Johnson,and the cl***ic by John Hannukaine.

    The rest might have some nice pics,if you are lucky.Some are misleading,
    some are a total waste.Don't buy anything by **** Bird,or Pinkerton and Lusk.

    I have yet to see a GOOD Pinstriping video,some are definately misleading.


    Buy AJ's book here:
    http://www.motorbooks.com/Store/ProductDetails_38589.ncm
    [​IMG]

    There have been a few threads here
    with answers to all the common questions.
     
  12. osf.666
    Joined: Oct 25, 2007
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    osf.666
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    from H806 Texas

    I just got a mack 00 from a auto paint store. They dont carry anything else ( not even 1 shot) This town ****s ***! Thanks for all the input.Im off to scour the book stores and track down this one kat that i here is striping. wish me luck, and any more help will be appreciated!
     
  13. chaddilac
    Joined: Mar 21, 2006
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    chaddilac
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    You can use regular enamel.... remember this: for the one shot you have to use Mineral Spirits, not thinner.
     
  14. Lil' Billy
    Joined: Dec 9, 2006
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    Lil' Billy
    Member
    from Georgia

    Check out Sketchkult.com Their forums have great beginner info. Brush storage, etc..

    If you didn't check Sketchkult, check there first.
    I purchased a recently new book: Herb Martinez's Guide to Pinstriping or anything from John Hannukaine. I didn't like the Alan Johnson book when I looked through it. I looked through the Bick Bird book and enjoyed it. As are most things, it's different for each person. Check out several books and see which you enjoy. I have heard there is a great scrollwork dvd from Kafka, but I haven't seen it.
     
  15. Ruiner
    Joined: May 17, 2004
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    Ruiner
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    Practice your heart out, and don't get discouraged...i prefer to practice and work with gl***, it wipes clean easy, it's always flat and picture frames are cheap...try to stick with the blue ferrule series brushes, the green series brushes are tougher to learn on in my experience...good luck
     
  16. Unkl Ian
    Joined: Mar 29, 2001
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    Unkl Ian


    1-Shot hasn't recommended using Mineral Spirits for at least 10 years.
    Check the label.
     
  17. Unkl Ian
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    Unkl Ian


    Does this 00 have Blue thread(Series 10),or Green thread (Series 20) ?
     
  18. haroldd1963
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  19. osf.666
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    osf.666
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    from H806 Texas

    Its green, whats the dif?
     
  20. Unkl Ian
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    Unkl Ian

    Made with a different species of hair.Feels different.
    Some people can make them sing,most people prefer the Series 10.
     
  21. Dino the weirdo
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  22. ibcalaveras
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    ibcalaveras
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    Check out Herb Martinez's web site I thought I saw starter kits there , plus books.
     
  23. FrankBoss
    Joined: Jun 29, 2007
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    This thread got me motivated to get the toys...I was ordering my Screen Printing supplies and ordered a brush and some One Shot.
    the brush is a Scharff 00 ..
    it was labled as a 00 Sword Striper.

    I went to Micheals looking for a stripping brush and didn't really see anything to resemble one.

    whats the difference in a sword and dagger brush? is it the brush or the handle...whats with the blue and green thing you guys are posting about? is that a synthetic hair?

    FrankBoss
    www.PintoWorks.com
     
  24. Unkl Ian
    Joined: Mar 29, 2001
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    Unkl Ian

    Scharf makes a good straight line brush.
    Michael's is a good place to buy stir sticks.

    Swords,the hairs are longer on top,which creates a point.
    [​IMG]
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    Daggers,the point is in the middle,where the long hairs are.
    Supposed to turn easier.
    [​IMG]
    Swords are definitely more common.


    Blue and Green refer to the color of thread
    used in the manufacture of Mack brushes.
    The color of thread identifys the species of hair used.

    Mack Series 20 and 30 use Brown Squirrel hair.
    Mack Series 10 uses Siberia Grey Squirrel hair.

    Some people say they can't tell the difference,but every time I've loaned someone a Series 10,they have gone out an bought one for themselves.


    Try the Scharff,see what happens.
     
  25. Unkl Ian
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    Unkl Ian

  26. crook
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    crook
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    from Winder,Ga

    I liked the blue wrap Mack series 10 better the first time I used one, but It could have just been the power of suggestion....hmmmmm.
     
  27. FrankBoss
    Joined: Jun 29, 2007
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    I will start with the Schraff and order a Mack 00 or two... I should have picked up a few more colors but I have more supplies coming in monday.
    So Much more to play with...

    Thanks guys.
    FrankBoss

    www.PintoWorks.com
     
  28. We offer pinstriping starter kits, as well as the full line of Mack brushes and 1 Shot. Soon to be handling Kafka as well. Thanks.

    www.hotrodhabit.com
     
  29. JrDragsterPunk
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    JrDragsterPunk
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    sketchkult.com is deff. a great place to go for tons of info and help.
     
  30. Lil' Billy
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    Lil' Billy
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    from Georgia

    Kinda odd your first post is to post about what you sell....perhaps you should do an intro so we don't think you're here to scam and spam? I'm not trying to be an *** about your post, but that's how it comes across. :)
     

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