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$320K for a 32 Roadster @ B-J

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by NITROFC, Jan 19, 2008.

  1. willysguy
    Joined: Oct 2, 2007
    Posts: 1,226

    willysguy
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    from Canada

    Hey guys don't forget to add in the 10% on top of that. I don't think you can use B-J as a benchmark for anything. It's a **** shoot, and you really need 2 or 3 bidders that WANT your car. If not a lot of stuff was selling for less than the cost of the build or restoration.
     
  2. dbradley
    Joined: Jan 6, 2007
    Posts: 1,036

    dbradley
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    Plus, if the buyer is from AZ he pays sales tax on top of everything else. B-J is considered a 'dealer'. You don't pay tax in car sales from individual but you do on dealer sales in AZ. Another 8.8%
     
  3. 327-365hp
    Joined: Feb 5, 2006
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    327-365hp
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    from Mass

    It's not a very impressive car. Definately not in the "Top 75"
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  4. publicenemy1925
    Joined: Feb 4, 2007
    Posts: 3,187

    publicenemy1925
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    from OKC, OK

    No ones crying it has a chevy! Alotta money for a ride I have never seen. Hell, the california kid car must be worth one million then.
     
  5. Deuce Roadster
    Joined: Sep 8, 2002
    Posts: 9,519

    Deuce Roadster
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    :)

    What the ??

    Who cares ...

    The guy who sold it is most likely REAL HAPPY ...;)
    The guy who was high bidder is happy ( at least for now )
    B-J made money ... so they are happy.

    The only one who could be UNHAPPY is the other guy who got out bid

    I am happy for ALL of them ... :p
     
  6. Suburbob
    Joined: Jan 21, 2008
    Posts: 2

    Suburbob
    Member
    from Dallas, Tx

    Just wanted to chime in on this discussion. This car won the B/Street Roadster at the "57" nationals. Carl Stone was my fathers cousin. My father John drove this car all over Dallas in the late 50's and early 60's. Also at the same time my Father drove Carl's B/Altered raodsters to 3 AHRA records. Garlits tried to buy this car from Patsy Stone (Carl's Widow) in the late 70's. As far as the external looks of the car the restoration was faithful. The story that is being told is that it ferried Wally Parks and Linda Vaughn at Indy in 79. This story is incorrect, the reality is that it ferried Wally and his wife at Indy in 79. Linda has never been in in this Car. As a little side note Patsy never sold the car it was bartered out by her son who could not have legally signed the ***le over to anyone.
    This info all came from Patsy Stone to my ears last week.
     
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  7. As I recall, when we got the car Chris's name was on the ***le.

    Anyway, I don't know whether to be ecstatic or not. Never wanted this car to get out of our racing family, but it did.

    We/Dad bought the car from Charles "Smiley" Sitton out of Dallas. Smiley was dealing in Street Rods at the time and found an ad in the paper for a 32 Ford Roadster (Chris put it up for sale). Smiley bought it and immediately called Dad, Charlie Smith, about the car. Dad said he wasn't interested until Smiley told him what car it was. Dad helped build and race this car with Carl when he was a kid. Man, the stories, Carl was like another father to dad, and Carl was the one that introduced dad to drag racing. There was this roadster and another that was an altered. They raced both and did win the 1957 NHRA Nationals in OKC in the B/SR cl***. The car was featured in Hot Rod, Rod & Custom, and was on the cover for one of the CHRR programs.

    We had the cars for years, just as Carl had it when he restored it for the 25th Anniversary at Indy. We tweaked it here and there, and got it a little more road worthy, although that was a little tough since it never was a street car in the first place. It was a race car with 40 Ford suspension and a 1957 Chevy 283, 3X2's, with the old Ford ******. I'll never forget my first trip driving the car through the neighborhood. I could not believe they raced it, damn I couldn't hardly shift gears in it! I think I was supposed to be going faster in it ... lol.

    After a few years we got back into nostalgia drag racing with a front engine dragster. We started out racing it in Junior Fuel. Dad contacted Patsy Stone about the use of the Rollin' Stone name for our race car. She gave us her blessings, so we preceded to paint the car purple with Rollin' Stone Racing on the nose in silver leaf. What a pair, matching front engine digger and the Rollin' Stone Roadster.

    As we got further into the racing and street rodding work dad sold the car to one of our customers. I happened to be working for him at the time. He was a pretty serious player in the street rod world and was planning to turn the car into another pristine cookie cutter roadster, but in the end he couldn't bring himself to do it. Honestly, I think he knew how I felt about the car . He ended up selling it to our close friend Jim Smith with the Hot Rod Garage out of Sand Springs, OK.

    The car as you see it now is because it was intended to be driven/raced again at nostalgia events. It was not intended to be a Barrett-Jackson history making roadster. The history and family connection is what I saw in it from day one, but this car was built to have fun! Jim finished the car up, and then later had a regular local customer that wanted to buy the car at a premium. Jim actually called dad for his blessing on the deal. So the car was sold but stayed in the Tulsa area which was cool.

    I had hoped that there would be an opportunity to get the car back and keep it within its racing roots, but clearly times change. Oh well, I see the car as evolving, it was never really a restoration. Maybe another 50 years down the road someone will restore it to what it was in 1957. In reality the paint scheme you see on it now was only for a short while in '57. It was painted another color of purple with a racing stripe, and I think that is the way you see in Rod & Custom in '58. It's also the way we were going to paint it because that was how it was for the longest. Remember race cars change and history is only a point in time.

    Here's the car with dad, Charlie Smith, and Jim Smith at the 50th Anniversary of the Nationals at Indy:
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    Dad signing posters at Indy:
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    Some old shots of the car:
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    Rollin' Stone digger and Mike Brown's 1st Junior Fuel car; Mike won the first CHRR in Junior Fuel and built the first HAMB digger:
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    How the car looked when we had it, which was exactly the way Carl had it for the 25th Indy:
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    I'm sure whoever owns it now will enjoy it. It's a nice car!

    Oh BTW, the last time I checked it was the only 32 Ford Roadster that won the B/SR cl*** at the 1957 Nationals. I guess that gives it some history.;)

    Robin Smith
    Whiz Kids Racing
    Blown A/Fuel FED
     
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  8. 36C8
    Joined: Sep 8, 2006
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    Those aren't all 57 or before gauges either, that needle speedo is a 64 and beyond, and the small ones look to be the same...
     
  9. klleetrucking
    Joined: Nov 3, 2007
    Posts: 86

    klleetrucking
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    from Dalzell,SC

    Just a lurker here. Maybe a dumb question, Who are these people that can spend $320K + for these cars. I watched a good bit of B/J over the weekend and I realize tv plays up the big numbers but $320K is a lot of money in any man's wallet.
    Just curious.:eek:
     
  10. 392_hemi
    Joined: Jun 16, 2004
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    Lots of people out there with money to spend. Seemed to me prices were actually kinda low on a lot of cars, including some of the muscle cars. Re: Rollin' Stone, I could see someone spending $320k if the car was in its original racing condition, or properly restored. But not in full street rod trim with just a handfull of the original parts.
     

  11. Well put...everyone should be happy, the guy that bought it must have wanted it bad enough to keep bidding. B-J does a good job of putting two people in the same room that "need" the same car, in most cases they earn the high commission fees charged. As for the second place bidder, he has 300k that he wants to spend on a roadster...go find him and sell him a car!
     
  12. Joe King
    Joined: Oct 8, 2004
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    Ya I was bidding up to 250,000 and then my wife said no more











    HAHA
     
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  13. Deuce Roadster
    Joined: Sep 8, 2002
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    Deuce Roadster
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    I do not have to go find one ... If he wants one that will outrun the 320K car ... I can sell him one for only 300K :)

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  14. Here's a few more of Carl Stone's Rollin' Stone Hot Rods:

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    Robin Smith
    Whiz Kids Racing
    Blown A/Fuel FED
     
  15. Mercmad
    Joined: Mar 21, 2007
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    Mercmad
    BANNED
    from Brisvegas

    I have the good fortune to be friendly with some seriously rich car enthusiasts . heres a car ,the only alloy bodied right hand drive Ferrari 250 GT to have been built,owned by a Ferrari team driver it has serious history ...and he also owns a 250SWB GTO plus at least 20 other Ferraris.heres it's being repainted becuse the owner is'nt very happy with paint job done for a PO. what did this car Cost?.....
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    $4,500,000 AUD :eek: $300,000 isn't even the annual fuel cost for a rich mans yacht.
     
  16. Suburbob
    Joined: Jan 21, 2008
    Posts: 2

    Suburbob
    Member
    from Dallas, Tx

    I think that the bottom picture is my father and that looks like it might be the Split-Ch***is Car. Anybody know how to contact Tony Franklin?
     
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  17. Cris
    Joined: Jan 3, 2005
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    Cris
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    from Vermont

    Sorry but isn't this a photo of a 275 GTB?

     
  18. HotRodPaint.com
    Joined: Nov 24, 2007
    Posts: 422

    HotRodPaint.com
    Member

    What is the value of anything???......The value is whatever someone is willing to pay for it.

    Will it drive up the price of every car like it???......Don't be retarded! There aren't enough buyers with 300K to buy all of the '32s at that price. This was a historic car that, on that day, was in front of a buyer who wanted it that badly....and there had to be two buyers to drive the price that high.
     
  19. 303racer
    Joined: Aug 23, 2006
    Posts: 584

    303racer
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    i say if you got that kind of money to buy that car
    enjoy it cuz
    you cant take it with you when your gone and looks to me thats what he is doing just my 2cents
     
  20. I think you might have the wrong picture...that looks like a 1964 275 GTB to me...a nice piece by anyones standards.
     
  21. 35ratbstr
    Joined: Feb 18, 2006
    Posts: 491

    35ratbstr
    Member
    from Colorado

    I sure hope the seller clearly marketed the roadster :eek: or it could be trouble.

    I thought the car was restored to original condition until i read the link above.
    Oh boy.............................
     

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