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What is this transmission ? Lasalle ?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by slapshot, Jan 24, 2008.

  1. slapshot
    Joined: Sep 29, 2005
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    slapshot
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    from Belgium

    hello ,

    somebody locally offered this transmission for sale as a '37 Lasalle , it doesnt like like one to me but what is it ? And is it any good ?

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    thank you ,
    Slapshot
     
  2. revkev6
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    from ma

    definately NOT 37 up lasalle. they don't have a bolt on shifter.
     
  3. Sixcarb
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    Sixcarb
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    If I saw the other side I might be a little more sure but I believe it's a buick since it has the 6 bolt top cover it's the stronger of the buick's as well.
     
  4. HEATHEN
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    HEATHEN
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    LaSalle did use a transmission of that style in '35-'36. If it's open drive, it's LaSalle. If it's torque tube, it's Buick.
     
  5. slapshot
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    Thank you !!! this is verry helpful ! (and fast !)

    would it be worth it to mess around with this transmission behind a 303 Olds ? will this fit the Olds bell housing and would it hold up ?
    would this be better than a let's say '39 toploader (ford)

    thanks again !
    Slapshot
     
  6. Zig Zag Wanderer
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    i believe the official designation for this trans design is the General Motors "D", used in one form or another in Buick from '35-'61 or so, and Olds from at least as far back as '51. after column shifts appeared and became wildly popular, around 1939, they changed the shift mechanism to a clunky shifting single lever arrangement. these are known as "selecter" variants. "selecters" can be made into tough ******s by utilizing their tougher geartrain with an early roadmaster top shift case and the olds output and extension housing for open drive. the result is just about as strong as a packard or caddy box. it seems to me, i recall reading that 35/36 cases are much weaker starting points, and i think the '35 has a different bolt pattern, the '37-'38 roadmaster case being the ultimate in terms of strength. i think though, that any top shift cover from any year will fit any case with minor mods, even selecters when the selecter junk is removed and a welsh plug installed in the hole.... so to answer your question, yes right off the bat, it's stronger than a '39 Ford, but like anything else, the parts combination and the attention you give it determine exactly how much stronger it is. <!-- / message -->
     
  7. slapshot
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    Thanks !

    so ultimate I would ***emble a top-loader with the first transmission I posted using the box of one of these ... (same guy also has these) right ?

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  8. Zig Zag Wanderer
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    no, the early pontiac box is smaller and lighter duty
     
  9. slapshot
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    how about that olds ?
     
  10. Zig Zag Wanderer
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    can you take a pic of that '48 olds box to compare top covers to your top-shift roadmaster trans to compare the shape of the top covers? the correct "selecter" should have six bolts and an identical shape to the roadmaster
     
  11. slapshot
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    I can not take photo's of these boxes , but I'll keep this in mind when I go there !
    thank you !!!
     
  12. Zig Zag Wanderer
    Joined: Jul 6, 2007
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    if you can, try to find the throwout bearing collar for the transmissions you buy. i think roadmaster/six bolt selecter and cad/lasalle all use the same one. since they don't "bolt on" and are captured between the bell and the trans when ***embled they always get ****tered when a trans and a bell get separated. when i collected six cad/lasalles i had one collar a**** all of them.
     

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