im starting my very first frame build and was wondering how many people built there own frame i was thinking of goin with 2x3 box tube with a .120 wall. could i go with something lighter?
That is what I used on the frame for my tudor. I asked the same question a while ago. I put doubler plates on a lot of the stuff that was gonna have any weight or stress going into the frame. Next time I will use 3/16 wall
I agree, .120" is fine. Make sure your connections are correct and you use fish plates where required. Do a little research here on past frame builds. There is a lot of great info. Good luck!
its for a 29 ford but im gon to stick a mildly built 460 in it, i got the tex smith book and abunch of info from here any tips on how to start?
I am toying in building my own frame for a occasional good weather rod and was thinking main middle sections in 2x3 but rear kick ups and frt portion in 2x2.
I am in the process of building my own frame for my '33 ford pickup. I'm using 2x3x.120 and so far its worked out great. http://www.fquick.com/images/vehicles/full/1288886183.jpg?1198865090
I used the 2x3 3/16" wall... I have been told any thinner and you could get some warping as you weld... take a look at mine... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=238024 This is for a '31 A...
A friend of mine used 2x3 3/16" wall for his dodge bros truck project, big block, big tires, no problem.
The weight and torque of a big block will say: build it right! Reinforce in high stress regions.(Use 4 X 2) No welds that undercut in critical areas. The 3/16 material is stiff, heavy, but you won't have any failures if done reasonably well.
On my fire truck project, I used 2x3x 3/16 and i was extremely happy with the results, my frame is 16 feet long and after adding alot of the body to the frame it started to sag in the middle. I had an engineer look over my problem and he designed a truss system that I built and installed, which completely eliminated the sag. With that motor combo, the heavier stell is the better choice.
This is the EXACT question I was thinking on my way in to work today. I was thinking 2x3x.120 I have built tube ch***is roccrawlers that take a BEATING out of round .120 wall tubing. Never broke a rail. DIma
3/16" thick 4 x 2 is 2# per foot more than 1/8". If you have 25' of tubing, we are talking 50# extra. In the grand picture, 50 # or $50 isnt going to make or break the project. Just my 2 cents
One thing to keep in mind. Your rockcrawler ch***is is built like a truss isn't it? Not just single side rails like he'll be doing here. I think .120 is enough if he were to use 2X4 it's not that much more in weight or money but would certainly add up to a stronger frame
Nah, I have never built a trussed frame... Single tube running through most of it. Single sided rails, but reinforced all voer the place. I was actually considering doing this for the ch***is on ym truck. Iknow it is not traditional, but you can't deny the cool factor involved. DIma
I've made several frames - mostly for race cars, but I'm now building a 49 Crosley altered . I generally use 2x3 - .120 for the race cars, which have cages that reinforce the frame. Have had good luck with these - even crash tested !! For the Crosley I used 2x4 - .120 primarily for appearance - looks a little sturdier to me when it is exposed. It will be plenty strong !! For what its worth, Morrison (who makes a few frames !!) recommends 2x3 for a car with a cage and 2x4 without - all .120 thickness.
This seems to be sound advice. It would be interesting to look at the stress that develops w/a high load situation. I like the cage addition if using 2 X 3. I had used 4 x 2 x 3/16 in an IRS/IFS model A and always felt it was a bit strong. It never flexed or cracked but I ran street tires and never hooked-up at the track with it.
Made a frame for my "Abortion" truck. It has a 429 Ford BB, so i used 2X4-7 ga. (3/16). I fabbed it all and tacked it with a mig welder than had a pro welder (my brother) ARC weld it all; re-enforced at corners and crossmembers. If ya got enough engine you don't have to worry about a couple pounds