under dash master cylinder setups - who's used em??

wanna get an under dash brake system for my wagon..anyone used them before??? what kind?? would you do it again??

thanks.

 

Made my own used a toyota Hiace van master cylinder as it is all ready set up for remoteing and a Holden Gemini booster and a linkage or two

 

Lol, I love it. No one in the US has the slightest idea what kind of vehicles you're talking about.

I'm waiting for the first Russian HAMBers to show up.
"Well, it's easy. You just take the master cyl from a t-73 tank and the backing plates off a Zil sedan and..."

Not making fun of you nzsimon, but to us, a Ute is a long haired guy on a horse with a bow and arrows.

If I ever win the lottery I'm going to come down there and check out the trout fishing.

 

check the late 70's & 80's dodge vans they used this type set up on those years & you can get PB w/it also....joe

 

ECI has those now but they're not on their web site yet. Give them a call (or see them in York this weekend):

Engineered Components, Inc.
Hot Rod Brakes and Brackets
P.O. Box 841
Vernon, CT. 06066
(860) 872-7046

 

What if the brake fluid leaks on you carpet???

 

dodge van works good but you have tomount them very good. i have had to fix many cracked van firewalls. I used a wilwood reverse mount pedal set up with cable clutch . you can get the pedals in 2 diffrent sizes. with the shorter size i had enough room to mount them in a 31 a that is channeled 3" and sectioned 2.5 " with out having to goto remote resivors. i can put a pic up tomorrow

 

indoor/outdoor carpet is cheap...thats what ive got..

 

i've seen in ad in street rodder that sells them. kugelkomponents.com

 

love to see some pictures of some mounted on rods

 

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What carpet?
What makes you think it's even gonna have a floor?

 

Look for the Kugel adds in the magazines. They make and sell a couple of different units. Have them for brakes only and brakes and hydraulic clutch.
I've got one of the brake and clutch units that I'm going to try on my '32 5w.

Frank

 

funny I didn't see this before.
I have two questions
first how do you fill the damn master cylinders
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second did you look at photo number 40 on JOJO'S Paso revisited. thats not only the slickest simple pedal cylinder set up, but exactly what I was trying to design for my Hemi Car. and if you get a leak you are notified immediatly by the fluid on your socks

 

Here is the pic of the wilwood setup in my a it's no all set up but as of right now with out all the bracing in place the mount does not flex. The pedals can be adjusted for starting height and there is a balance bar between the 2 brake masters no need for a separate valve.

 

I have been looking for a setup for my 34. I have a reverse mount set up but the pedal arms are too short and are cast aluminum. The Kugel setup looks like the ticket so I ordered one today and will shoot some pics of the install when I get to it.


Here is a pic of how it looks.

 

I'm running the Kugel set-up in my Terraplane... I probably wouldn't do it again... I would have had room under the floor, and it would be a lot easier to check and fill... (and I am glad I don't have carpet yet...) It was friggin' expensive too...

Mike

 

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If your master cylinder is leaking brake fluid, you've got a bigger problem to worry about than some messed up carpet.

 

bttt - anyone else? pictures?

 

Right on cue. Didn't think to search on Master Cylinder.

 

I've installed a number of Kugel systems. You need serious mounting points to keep them from flexing. The master cylinder is a major pain in the *** to fill and check. Getting the brake lines out of the car car be another challenge. The upside is Kugel workmanship is top shelf, they are great guys to deal with, and they offer two different pedal lengths.

 

If your really adventurous, you could run a Bugeye Sprite pedal ***embly.

 

I'm thinking of doing a similar set-up....How you checking the fluid?

 

mirror and a flash light or the stick your finger in.

 

I had '49 Ford with a power master under the floor and i glued a mirror just above it on the floorboard

 

hey T McG - you have any pictures of the way you mounted them to keep them from flexin???

 

The Toyota Hiace van is the same boxy thing that preceded the Previa here in the states. Maybe worth a look for a cheap, small ***embly.

 

They are a real pain in the ****.

Requires cowl reinforcement, the long hanging pedal looks goofy (especially on an old Ford), are a pain to fill and check fluid level and piss on the floor (not from leaks, but when ya' do a brake job, ya' retract the calipers, the fluid goes back into the master and instant mess) and besides that, I hate working under dash boards.

The ONLY advantage I see is it makes it easier for the exhaust system man to run the pipe on the drivers side (that's for us LHD folks).

 

i'll be running a wilwood set up in my coupe. comes with pedal and slave for a hydro throwout bearing. nice clean set up. its kinda spendy though. but deffinatley eliminates headaches . i'll post some pics in a couple days.

 

I tried using a kugel 90 degree clutch and brake setup in my 33 ford 3w and it interfered with too much stuff. First a 33-34 firewall has a step in it so it places the pedals about 6-8 inches closer to the driver than floor pedals. Second, the unit interfered with putting gauges in my dash. Third, the brake master cylinder got in the way of my cowl vent handle. I could have heavily modified the unit and got it to work, but it was expensive to begin with and I didn't want to risk screwing the thing up.

I even tried using the unit with the shorter pedals but I didn't want to see my master hanging below my dash.

I've seen them mounted in 32 fords and they work well. Having a flatter firewall with a center gauge pod make the 32 an ideal cantidate for this setup. I've even seen cowl vents modified to allow master cylinder filling. The nice thing about these things is it leaves more room under the body to tuck the exhaust system into.

Dave