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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by TyAtkinson, Feb 12, 2008.

  1. TyAtkinson
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    I live in oklahoma your pretty much not going to find any anglias or prefects sitting around here.

    However i do have a Prefect also have 4 extra doors and a extra trunk lid for it, it was a vintage drag car back in its prime and has been in the family for quite a few years.

    Originally had a 289 powered by a powerglide with a olds rear in it.

    Have a much better front end with disc brakes ready just need to get it into town and start working on the thing, Questions along with pictures below finding info on the Prefect seems to be like pulling teeth where im from, i did some searches and got some better info just from searching these forums i guess it helps to have people outside of the united states posting here =p

    From the pictures Please help me out a bit with this, i do beileve the front clip i have is from a Anglia will this work on this car? this has been in the family for 40+ years as it sits in the farm, only other build i have done is a 1923 ford t-bucket which is cake compared to a real car.

    So Some pictures and ill let you guys do your damage.

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  2. metalshapes
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    Anglia Sheetmetal should fit.

    Here is one.
    ( probably a 1 piece Gl*** Filp front, but I've heard that the steel parts line up...)
     

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  3. TyAtkinson
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    Thats great news Much more of a fan of the Anglia Style then the Prefect, the grill thats in my picture above i havent seen any pictures of cars with that one what year car is it from?
     
  4. metalshapes
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    Some pics of one with the original style sheetmetal.

    ( looks like yours has different fenders though...)
     

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  5. TyAtkinson
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    Great Pictures! i wonder how bad regular street driving will be while sitting in the back seat while driving lol
     
  6. That grill shown would be Prefect :p.
     
  7. TyAtkinson
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    As for the fenders are they prefect also?
     
  8. Hackerbilt
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    Ty...nice ride your gonna have! I'm jealous!!!

    Looks like someone already did some tidy work to the old girl back when it was first built.
    Usually we see some real hack jobs in those old race cars but that isn't the case with this one.
    Shame it was left to the elements...but it looks easy to save.

    Make posts on the build if you can!!!!
    Thanks!
     
  9. TyAtkinson
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    Definatly will follow the build carefully take video and pictures from field to finished i didnt do that with my bucket and i regret it daily.

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  10. Ty, if you're getting rid of the front suspension I'd be interested in the front shocks and arms.

    Thanks,
    Steve
     
  11. Hackerbilt
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    JUST as a suggestion...considering the history of your personal Prefect, and the history of the breed as a whole as it relates to early Hot Rodding...why not make it a more indepth build than the bucket?

    Source 60's era parts and wheel combinations etc...build it as a clean, basic vehicle with no frills and a powerful engine that does justice to its roots.

    The world doesn't need another slammed and tubbed English Ford thats 4" off the ground, theres a lineup of those, but an honest attempt to recreate something close to the "1/4 pounders" that these cars became famous as would be a different story. Doesn't need to be nuts powerwise or anything...just representative in looks and layout.
    Dolling those little things right up with flawless paint and imaculate detailing is like making a silk purse from a sows ear, but ultimately is it worth it?

    I don't think so...because given the right build up, that Sows ear with all its flaws and strangeness, will draw much bigger crowds than any polished and primped out machine parked across the street. ;)
    Done right...that Prefect will be absolutely awesome!
     
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  12. metalshapes
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    And I'd be interested in the rest.
    ( Axle, Spindles, Hubs & Wheels...)
     
  13. Gasserman
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    Ty ,what you have is a true `48 Prefect. The front fenders are the same as Anglia except the inner fender panels . Which can be removed and headlights are same as Anglia`s also. Only the `48 model uses these parts, the`49 and newer ones have the different frontend . If you need any more help Pm me ,I`ve had several of each . Hope this helps. Glad to have another OKie here. G***erman
     
  14. AnimalAin
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    *****'n little car. A few thoughts:

    If you are going with a small block Ford, lots of good parts are available for (relatively) reasonable prices, including options for shocking amounts of hp and torque.

    If you are going to race it, a PG might be a good choice, but if it is headed for the street (even part time), a C4 is probably a better bet. If you are really serious about driving it, an AOD might be worth considering.

    In any case, I am eagerly awaiting updates about your progress.
     
  15. HotRodPaint.com
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    There were some well known Prefects, many running anglia 'gl*** on the front.

    A couple cars I recall immediately were Junior Thompson's car, and the Mac's Taxi CC/GS. I'll see if I can find pictures.
     

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  16. BOBBY FORD
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    That is going to be one little bad *** car. Please keep us posted as you go. Thanks, BOBBY FORD
     
  17. HotRodPaint.com
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    Another well-known car was Steve Woods'. Here are a couple shots during different eras.
     

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  18. rottenpop
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  19. I got one that's been chopped ,back doors welded and filled,as well as the roof..
    Would be great g***er,

    1939fiat
     
  20. TyAtkinson
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    Wow i could never find this many pictures of Prefects by searching around,
    I am in no way against using the stock suspension on the car, if you see the front end on the t-bucket i have a freind with exactly the same setup off of his car and is willing to give it to me for free honestly i dont even know if it could be made to work on the 1948 car as now i find out it is.

    I will post some better pictures of the front end of the bucket to see if you think if a front end similar could even be made to work with the help of you guys.

    If i used stock suspension with rear only breaks what kind of stopping power would i look at, I want this to hold true to the roots of the original drag car it was guys not trying to turn this into something else.

    Does anyone have any pictures of interiors of these type of cars, i do not want to go back with a wooden floor by any means however.

    Let me find a picture of the buckets front end, if i dont use the front end thats there currently i will be happy to send some parts to you guys for shipping only, i know you will be here helping me with ideas etc.
     
  21. TyAtkinson
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  22. hey Ti;
    here ya go..the possiblities are endless..
    good luck.. this is on a junk S10 frame..
    yeah, it's fer sale..

    1939fiat
     

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  23. TyAtkinson
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    Pulling it into town to the house to start working on Soon Decided to do***ent the build with video as well as pictures.

    As for Interior and Dash What kind of options am i looking at with this car im sure its pretty endless. i got the old dash peice in the barn but its just a flat peice with holes for gauges.
     
  24. Mercmad
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    yes definately a 1948 but I have never ever seen the 1.17 liter badge before! normally the ones we had in this part of the world had Ford Prefect ,Ford 8 or Ford 10 HP on the badge.
    I would start by measuring the body completely and building a 60 style g***er ch***is then place the body on that. Once you get into that car you will see that the body and ch***is are a type of really crude unibody all riveted together. The front axle and stubs/spindles are typical early Ford Quality and are very useble with a 60's type g***er engine.
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  25. evilgenius
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    a great license plate for your ford prefect could be A-DENT
     
  26. TyAtkinson
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    My grandfather just pulled the ***le out that he has and the ***le shows it as a 1949.

    Funny thing tho, i have 4 extra doors for this car.

    On my extra trunklid theres a Anglia Emblem thats in perfect shape lol
     
  27. GlenC
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    The 1949 ***le could be because they had real problems selling them in the US, so it could have been in the showroom for a couple of years. The front clip is definitely pre-48, and so is the body. The swage lines on the front doors are the giveaway. 1949-53 doors, the 'E493A' Prefect with the grille metalshapes shows in his pics have no swage lines on the doors. Those lines should actually match up with the curve of your front guards too.

    If you google the web, search for E93A Prefect, (your model) or E493A Prefect, (1949-1952) or all you'll get is hits on Hitchhiker's Guide to The Galaxy!

    You'll find the front end is very narrow compared to a full sized Ford, so finding an alternative front end may be a problem. Your ch***is appears to be factory boxed at the front too, not usual in Aussie models.

    A few pics online....

    http://www.fsoc.co.uk/models/A4 E93A PREFECT .pdf

    http://www.oldcl***iccar.co.uk/photos-audlem/ford_prefect_e93a_15.htm

    Good luck, they're fun cars to hotrod!

    Cheers, Glen.
     
  28. Mercmad
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    Pretty sure the factory never boxed them.In his pics, if you look under the car it's has a lot ch***is work to hold the SBF in place.
    I have had a lot of those things over the years including helping as mate build a Zephyr six ( english ford six) powered one in the early 70's. The ch***is are hopeless really so building a new one is the only way out.
    This is a link to a Amglia ( sit up and beg type) built in the UK,lots of great idea here!!
    http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/journal.php?journalid=30526&action=view
     
  29. TyAtkinson
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    Im going to do what i can with the factory frame in it, have no plans of making a new frame for the car.

    I dont know what modifications have been done to it.
     
  30. Ty, I once found an old Magnum 4" dropped tube axle that was custom built in a narrow width for an Anglia/Thames - it was set up like a standard Ford hotrod axle - fit Ford spindles, had Ford style perch bosses, it was just extra narrow for the small european Fords - sold it a few years back but would be the ideal setup for the front of this style of car - you could then use all aftermarket, new early Ford suspension and brake parts.

    Steve
     

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