I am wiring up a 53 F100 with a late model 302 and changing out the points to a electic ignition. The truck wiring was a homemade and I have no problems with wiring a GM just that this Ford has both a ballast resistor and a regulator in the system.Plan is to us the coil that is there and add a electic kit and dump the points. Now I have done wiring for GM`s many times and was wondering if I can do the same setup with a Ford and dump the ballast resistor and the regulator? I am sure I can dump the resister but what is the regulator used on a Ford for?
I'm pretty sure if you're losing the points, you can lose the resistor,not sure which regulator you're talking about.
If you are losing the point system you can lose the resistor and coil. The voltage regulator has to stay in place. If I can find my diagram in the house I will post it up for you. If not when I get in the garage later I will dig out the one that came with my wiring kit as well as the one I hand sketched. When you say late model 302 what year are you talking about?
If he is changing the distributor to a gm style then he will not need the coil either. I have that setup currently on my truck, my father's 66 f-100, another sitting waiting for a project to drop a 351w in and another waiting to drop a 460 in. They work great and remove the need for a coil.
I used a Ron Francis kit for my 40 Ford. It was a breeze, follow the instructions verbatim and you're done.
Please clear this up for everyone.....Are you using a late 70's dist. with the box or are you using a GM style HEI distributor?
I'm thinking that he's taking the points out of the distributor and using something like petronix. I could be wrong though.
Fitzee won't be online for awhile...its Hambandy build night...BUT I'm pretty sure he's talking about a Petronix kit. The regulator? Ya got me!!!
I see...well when he gives us an update I will just go out to my truck and sketch up my wiring. I can't find the one I put together when I wired my truck. My case it is a late model (1969) 302. I think mid 70's is as late as I want to go for engines in my projects.
Fitzee is STILL working...had to paint a customer fender before going home from the build. Another LATE night for him! My understanding, after talking to him is this... 1) Do you need a ballast resistor with a Petronix conversion to a Ford points distributor? 2) Does a Ford D7XX year (1977) 70amp Alternator have a built in regulator or does it require an external one? Hopefully someone can give a quick answer...he could really use a heads-up on this for tomorrow morning!!! Thanks guys!
1: Not positive about the Petronix kit but many folks I have talked with before that were not running the GM HEI distributors were using resistors because they were blowing ignition/pickup modules....someone else may want to chime in that has more experience with the Petronix kit. 2: You do need a voltage regulator and it is not built in to the alternator. They are cheap enough...about $15. Be very careful to get the wiring correct on the alternator and regulator because it may seem fine but you will get a whine out of the alternator if it is not wired right. It may even show proper charging on a volt meter.
Thanks Bill for helping out. It is a petronix kit I will be using and I was told the you can dump the resistor as for the alternator. Do you have a wiring diagram for the regulator for ford? This truck was wired badly and I have no time to order a wiring kits so I will rebuid the wiring I have .Have everthing other then the regulator figured out.There were no relays in the system so i have to add them. The regulator was on this truck but I don`t like how it is wired up. Some wire from the regulator were cut and others were joined togeather.Not my idea of good wiring.So if you have the diagram for this it would be great.thanks.
I went to my truck and double checked it. I downloaded this diagram because I can't find my hand sketched one. Your voltage regulator will have those letters above the connectors...if for some reason you can not see them they are always in that order. On your alternator the stator is usually black, the Field is usually yellow and the Battery is usually red. Good luck. Charlie
thanks.Fixed up all the wiring today eccept for the regulator.I have to know what the guy did to this truck and why. So I too a pic and marked down what he had done.Nothing was hooked to the alternator,unless he ran something else fron inside the truck.Don`t know if this ever worked!! F- white was cut off S- red was always live A- yellow was Acc key I- Green went to the coil resistor
You can also run a one wire GM alternator, they have a built in voltage regulator. Less wires and a cleaner look.
I got a GM one wire alternator in a 51 coupe w/79 t-bird 302 rebel wire 9+3 kit it was real easy to wire still got coil though dont know if itz any help
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