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There is too much Death and Dying on the HAMB

Discussion in 'Questions & Suggestions' started by Mercmad, Feb 27, 2008.

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  1. Six Ball
    Joined: Oct 8, 2007
    Posts: 6,475

    Six Ball
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    from Nevada

    When ever something good comes along people have a need to be part of it, even if they don't understand it. The less they have going for them the greater the need to belong. There is so much great stuff here it's worth wading through some crap to get to it. It's even worth having fng under my name and taking stuff from someone who needs to use his time on this board,and what ever is under his name, as proof that he knows something. We will never all agree, even on what is traditional, partly because there are different traditions. If I don't want to read a thread I don't. There's plenty to read, I'll never catch up! Thank you Ryan and all of you others who make this place happen. This board is important. I don't know any of you, but if you die I hope someone will post it here.
     
  2. 49 Fleetline
    Joined: Apr 24, 2003
    Posts: 40

    49 Fleetline
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    from NorCal

    Check out "Bookz" post history. You wouldn't know that he was even into traditional hot rodding by the threads he replies to. All of it is just drama stuff. That's the route of the problem! Replying to the bad stuff when there is so much good to reply to!

    Good move on the other moderation decision. That guy was loony, which is fine if you are actually into hot rods, but not so if you are just into running people down.

    I'm done now. Excuse the rant. I was just kind of amazed to see someone actually complain about content on here. I've never had it so good.
     
  3. Six Ball
    Joined: Oct 8, 2007
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    from Nevada

    Or one mans disbelief!:eek:
     
  4. Catdaddyo
    Joined: Mar 9, 2005
    Posts: 136

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    What is wrong with people posting thier feelings about people passing or venting some of the pain they are in ? maybe they don't have any family and the HAMB is it. If you see its going to be one of "those posting " don't open it, I don't read everything posted..
     
  5. CRUE CAB
    Joined: Dec 16, 2006
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    CRUE CAB
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    from Florida

    Honor and reverence for the recently dead need not be a "buzzkill".
    Celebrate ones recent passing, especially if they have lived a very full and succesfull life.
    I just went to the wake of my best friends father. An AirForce Lt Col that few many missions in VietNam.
    I was expecting a tearfull re union of old friends and family.
    It was not. It was a celebration of his life and carreer and family.
    I knew him for over 25 years but didnt know all there was to him.
    Sad as it was to see him go and knowing the loss to his family, it was the rememberance of many good times that carried the day.
     
  6. panhead_pete
    Joined: Feb 22, 2006
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    Some of us are learning what is probably appropiate and what is not, even when we have been here a while. Bit like a thread I started re my new tatt - of my Duece Coupe, but after some drama it was closed and I now know to post that sort of thing in the art thread where it more rightfully belonged. This, like all learning is on going process, its just a pity some folks know it all already.
     
  7. rodncustom
    Joined: Sep 24, 2007
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    It sounds like you're in this for everyone else. If that is the case, maybe this isn't the place for you. If you like what you're looking at, then hang around a while.
     
  8. arkiehotrods
    Joined: Mar 9, 2006
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    I have twin 23 month old grandsons, James and Joseph. James was born healthy; Joseph was born with VATER syndrome, a really shitty combination of serious, life-threatening birth defects. I posted a thread on the "evil" eBay on April 12, 2006, asking for prayers because the doctors didn't think Joseph was going to live. Since then, almost two years, over 1980 posts have been made on a thread where people all over the US and Canada have prayed for Joseph. Right now Joseph is in intensive care at Arkansas Children's Hospital. He has been at Children's Hospital this time since January 8, and since birth, over 40% of his 23 months. He is in very, very critical condition. Just this evening, on the way home from the hospital, I got a call from a friend on eBay who has made a trip from Birmingham to Little Rock to see my grandsons. It means the world to me that he cares enough to pray, to make a trip to see my grandsons, to give me a call at 9 p.m. on a Friday night to see how we're doing.

    I know this is a traditional hotrod forum. I know religion, politics, etc, are not allowed. But I also know that human beings are far, far more important than any thread about rods and customs. Sadly, I don't post about my grandsons here, because there are enough assholes here to make it not worth posting; they'll bitch and complain that its off topic.

    Ultimately, this is a site about live human beings who share a common interest, namely traditional rods and customs. They're internet friends, who ask questions, share ideas, and share their love of our lifestyle. But they're also people who bleed real blood, who lose loved ones like fathers & sons, and ask for prayers when someone is hurting and in real need.

    The very notion that such topics should be off topic or not allowed demonstrates nothing more than callous apathy, an attitude that says, "To hell with you and your problem, your suffering, your pain; we're all about what wheels to use, what headlights to use, etc."

    When Ratstar posted about his twins, I prayed for them. When others have posted about losing loved ones, I prayed. When there were posts about the passing of Boyd and Lil' John, I prayed for their families. What's wrong with that? Are we not allowed to do that because some atheist will get pissed off?

    It's your site, Ryan, and you can, obviously, do whatever you want. But in today's world, people need all the love and support they can get, and it will reflect well on the HAMB and the people therein if that love and support is allowed to happen, even if it's "off topic."
     
  9. metalshapes
    Joined: Nov 18, 2002
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    Sorry man, but that is just not true.

    As one of the Mods that Closes these Threads now, I can tell you that we struggle with these things.
    Because of the terrible situations people suffer with.

    And we Close them instead of Deleting them so the other users still can find them and send P/Ms if they want.

    I can honestly tell you that Closing these threads is not a pleasant task, but we have agreed to do this because there were just too many of them.

    Not everybody will agree that these Threads are being closed.

    But we dont do this out of Callousness...
     
  10. Ryan
    Joined: Jan 2, 1995
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    Closing them is the hardest thing we do. Period.

    But we have too...
     
  11. scottwaters
    Joined: Oct 12, 2007
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    My 2 cents. I google 36 Ford axle, a HAMB article comes up. I google Buick drum, a HAMB article comes up. I have also "lurked" for quite some time. And now I am a FNG. So I post an ad, someone has to be a smartass and post something to "get a spittin' contest" and my "want ad" gets pulled, or someone hijacks the topic...so what? IN THE BIG PICTURE, THE HAMB HAS A TREMENDOUS DEPTH OF KNOWLEDGE AND HELPFUL MEMBERSHIP OUT THERE. It's worth putting up with some OT or smartass occasionally because the B-U-L-K of the posts are so beneficial. The ad-mins are right, if it is not a topic for you, CLOSE THE THREAD AND MOVE ON.
     
  12. corncobcoupe
    Joined: May 26, 2001
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    40,000 + members and be realistic about this guys that there is no way everyone is going to be happy with how or why things are done here.

    Maybe sharing with you that as Moderators before anything gets closed or deleted we discuss with fellow Moderators if we should, or should not close anything unless it is plain as day obnoxious or off the wall.


    Cars are what binds us all together.
    Do we like to here someones life has been altered through tragic events etc. ?
    No - we as moderators are saddened by it but with 40,000 members everyones life here has daily challenges and it would take over the focus from cars to people.

    Does that make us cold hearted ?
    To some yes - but 99% are here for the cars - lets be honest.

    If everyone shared their daily struggles with life, it would over take the HAMB, plain and simple.

    All of you have a choice to open a thread or not -

    Make it what you want to make it, but lets just keep in mind that this is a
    Old Hot Rod and Custom Car Web site and the focus is sharing cars.

    Some times we close or delete threads - that's just the way it is.

    Cob
    Classifieds Mdoerator
     
  13. arkiehotrods
    Joined: Mar 9, 2006
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    To Ryan and the moderators who've responded to what I wrote, I appreciate your explaining your viewpoint. It helps me see things from your perspective. Thanks.
     
  14. corncobcoupe
    Joined: May 26, 2001
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    You're welcome and enjoy the HAMB !

    Cob
    Classifieds Moderator
     
  15. A PM would be nice...
     
  16. corncobcoupe
    Joined: May 26, 2001
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    Yep - agreed, but since we do this for fun and donate our time we might miss doing that now and then.

    My future apologies extended in case I miss doing that.

    Cob
    Classifieds Moderator
     
  17. Falfa55
    Joined: Mar 27, 2008
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    I know Im just a FNG but why dont they just put a obituary section?(simple enough)..I know, Id like to know when a Hot Rod legand dies,and their story if I dont know who they are. Im sure others would too..This site is like a news paper full of good and bad news..
    As for people responding to Death posts...I guess Im an atheist too cause I dont beleive in that stuff either.but if a simple respone of god bless you and ill pray for you makes someone feel better then when that shit happens so be it...Its about RESPECT fuck nuts!..Some of you assholes should be embarassed that your pea brains cant understand that.:D
    Ah there is nothing like makin'new freinds on the H.A.M.B

    Also if its a death post Like My buddy Joe Shmo the farmer died I really dont care to hear about it....40000 members,this would turn into a death post...Keep to Hot Rodders
     
  18. corncobcoupe
    Joined: May 26, 2001
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    Won't be any other new sections unless Ryan decides.

    This post kind of flares the emotions and has run it's course of opinions.
     
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