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Is there a market for an "Original" Model T

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by trukin55, Feb 23, 2008.

  1. The37Kid
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    SCREW the Title BS, that is ONE RARE T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm posting after seeing the photos, don't know if anyone has ID'd the coachbuilder, is it an Ames body? Who is the wheel maker? That is worth far more than any stock Ford production bodied car.
     
  2. jonzcustomshop
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    as far as I know the bonded title thing is not too big a deal, might take a few $$
    you give the state thier stated value of the car, say $3000
    then they give you the title,
    If anyone comes foward in three years claiming to own, with documented proof, they get the money, you still keep the car & new title.
    If not you get the money back.
    I think there are also insurance co.s that take care of the bonding price, so that you are not out of pocket for too many $$$.
    might be something to look into.
     
  3. lostn51
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    that is a rare piece of history for sure. i would do everything to make sure that car did not get cut up and i would think about leasing it to a museum or displays around the country. you can work on the title as you do that. you used to be able to buy titles and the matching frames from a guy in Hemmings Motor News. you might want to check that out.
     
  4. The37Kid
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    This is one great thread! Very proud of my fellow HAMBers that know this is a period custon that should be preserved as is or rerestored. There were many specialty body companies in the 1920's that built speedster bodies for T chassis, a few also built coupe & sedan bodies. They didn't sell well, and finding a survivor is very rare. Can we see a photo of the engine? If that has an overhead conversion on it will bring even more money. The engine number is the wrong thing to use in dating the car, they got swapped out a lot. As others have said the fenders are 1926-27 T, and they don't bolt onto a pre 1925 chassis easily, the 26-27 frames were unique and have a wider rear corssmember. This attached photo is an Ames body for a T, made in Owensboro, Kentucky, they were the largest aftermarket body builder at the time. Great car, sell it to someone that is into that type car, take the pile of money and buy something you like.:D
     

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  5. Ole don
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    There is a stocker for sale in Old Cars Weekly this week for 12,500. This one could be worth that or more.
     
  6. Rand Man
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    Custom Bodybuilding goes way back to the horse-drawn days. If Illinois gives out bonded titles; no big deal. Go to State Farm, give them $115.00 with some sort of VIN, and walk out with your new title. They are bonded. Nothing to worry about.
     
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  8. trukin55
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    They are already bought and paid for.
    Cannot wait to get them.
     
  9. Illinois will do what's called a bonded title on a vehicle like this. I believe they'd issue it a new serial number on a tag somewhere on the body as part of the process.

    If you were to sell it to New York, it would be fairly simple to register it without paperwork, but most people don't know how - it's definately worth the time to get a title for it.
     
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  11. trukin55
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    Here is what I found in a book titled
    "The Model T Ford Owner" by Murray Fahnestock 1968.
    The Master bodies are distinctively high grade custom body construction and are built by the same workman and the same materials as the bodies of some much higher priced cars. The bodies are upholstered in handsome woolens and include many refinements in comfort and luxury.
    Both the four door sedan and the coupe have the same stout frame work construction properly glued and screwed at all joints with frames built of seasoned Maple. The panels are 20 gauge special auto body steel and the frames are paneled with metals above the line of the body as well as below, permitting no exposed woodwork on the outside of the body. The moldings are extruded aluminum, applied in the usual manner with concealed nails.
    The roofs are of the bow and slat type, generally conceded to be approved practice. The lower half of the windshield is stationary, with the upper half ventilating, being controlled by quadrants with nickeled fittings. The door glasses are operated by window regulators of the latest type, and the interior hardware is nickel plated and of attractive design.
    The durable Duco system of painting is(as featured on new Oakland cars) is used to give a celluloid surface to the car that practically eliminates the need for painting, as the finish is considered almost indestructible.
    The hood is raised and a new design of radiator shell is supplied to fit the new low, streamline effect of the body. The body is longer and roomier, and the low lines are secured without sacrificing comfortable headroom, Seats are wider and lower and laid back at a comfortable angle. There is a dome light.
    Other equipment includes sun visor, cowl ventilator,vacuum system in combination with gauge, and gasoline tank mounted at back of chassis, linoleum covered running boards, with body and hood painted Master blue.
    For this who are loyal to Ford worth, yet have the desire to drive in "class",
    modern coach builders offer plenty of aristocracy in the way of special bodies. And the best of it is that no matter how ornate the body, the reliable Ford is beneath it all.
    Sorry that got so lengthy.
     
  12. Searcher
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    Any pic's of the interior ?

    The flower vases inside were often called Bud vases. :)
     
  13. trukin55
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    I will have more pics soon. engine and interior pics are coming. The car is an hour away from me.
     
  14. Straightpipes
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    Gas tank mounted at the rear ??? I wonder how that works?
     
  15. Wildfire
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    PM or email Brent-in-10-uh-C, he's connected with several Model T organizations. The first time I went to his shop, he showed us a Model T school bus or something they had driven all over the midwest that summer. It was later sold to a collector. He might be able to help out or point you in the right direction. Tell him Scott sent you.
     
  16. fiat128
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    Very cool car, thanks for sharing it with us. I'm glad you have enough brains not to chop it up like some other idiots I've seen lately (it's a four door anyway). I'm a firm beliver that nice old cars should stay togother and the not so nice ones are perfect for hot rods since you need to modify them anyway.

    Very cool car and you should be able to get the title fixed.
     
  17. gas pumper
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    That's that vacuum system the brochure mentions.

    The Ebay papers also mentioned that besides buying a complete car from them, you could bring them your Model T and they would rebody it

    What an interesting thread. We learn something everyday on the HAMB.

    Frank
     
  18. speedtool
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    Is there a market?
    Ever heard of Hemmings?
     
  19. trukin55
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    I think some are waiting for more pics. The car is an hour away. I will post interior and engine pics tomorrow night. Thank you all for your input so far.
    Mike
     
  20. old dirt tracker
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    the market for all cars relates to the cars of your youth so the market for model t,s is 80 year olds. of course there are exceptions but it generaly runs this way. go to the l a rodaster show on fathers day and see all the white hairs.
     
  21. trukin55
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  22. Insane 1
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    These type of threads are why I love this fourm !!
     
  23. Indiana Trucks
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    I would love to have the car, any idea of what he wants for it? I now own and drive a 26 2 door sedan that sat for 42 years till I got it running and rebuilt the front end and left the rest as is other than a new top. It is a blast to drive but took a while to learn how to make it go and stop cause the 3 pedals don't do what the 3 pedals on newer cars do.

    I think this one should be kept as is or restored to show. It would look real good next to my 26 in the garage.
     

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  24. trukin55
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    Anybody new have any info?
     

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