I need schoolin on the diff. between the old Lacquer paint and the Lacquer you can get in the hardware store. The reasoning is the color I want is in the hardware store real cheap and clear. I am finding it hard to find the color and clarity at the auto paint stores. (Burnt Orange, like the sauce in Ginger Beef) Like they say, "If you buy most of your automobile parts at the hardware store and most of your home repair items at the parts store... You must be a redneck!"
buy a can of the store bought paint ..take it to a car paint store, let them use the color gun on it and come up with a match
Hey, If your ride is ready for "real" paint, don't waste your time fuckin' 'round with rattle cans, lacquer or otherwise! I'm sure that most real automotive paint supply places in Kanada have a shitload of colour books, jus' chockfull of "burnt orange-like" colours. I would also think "House of Kolor" would have online sam- ples of their colours. A real lacquer paint job, in todays money, will be tall coin over the cost of a urethane paint job. Swankey devils C.c. "Meanwhile, back aboard The Tainted Pork"
First of all - there is no such thing as a "dumb question". But, my question to you is - why do you want to use laquer ? Are you just trying to save money or are you just looking for a cheap quickie paint job or what ? There are MANY other options that would be better.
dude, laquer went out with the hula hoop. everybody and their sister makes basecoat paint, it's cheap and anyone can spray it. check around, i'm sure you can find some in the color you want.
Thanks for the replies guys. Basically, What I am after is the clear deep candy paint. A well done Lacquer job stands out from all the wannabes at the show & shine. Maybe I'm asking the wrong questions to the wrong guys at the paint places.... I want to lay the candy over a slightly 2 tone silver base. The closest thing I've found seems to be the Auto Air Colors Paint. But I've been told that it's only used for graphics etc. not the whole car?
Let me get this right...you want an outstanding candy paint job, but are shopping in hardware stores?????????? Ya need more than schooling, dude! First, commmon sense. A nice custom paint job is going to cost you. You need to buy custom paint for cars, at an automotive auto body store. Not a hardware store, not Sears, not Micheal's Arts and Crafts. It also takes a LOT of time, talent, and work to prepare a car body for a great paint job. Your questions seem to indicate you don't have the knowledge or experience for this type of job. Not saying you never will, but you need a lot of practice, first. I've done LOTS of candy paint jobs. My perfered brand is House of Kolor, though other manufactureres make similar paints. I still believe HOK is the highest quality, and the best selection. With great quality products, it is possible to do great quality work. But if you don't have the experience and knowledge, you just wasted $1000 worth of quality materials. My advice is work on your skills and practice, and learn before trying a Candy paint job. AND you can get a great, super-deep candy finish without using lacquers!
Do not waste money or time on cheap paint, or hardware paint intended for interior use. Most of those "hardware paints" do not have resistance to sunlight, they will fade and dry out leaving you with a crappy finish. If it is candy color you want pick one from HOUSE OF COLOR, they seem to be the standard that is copied by many. I was talked into using "modern" urethane paints about 10 years ago after a long absence from auto painting. I used it on my car and now I would not use anything else. Base coat Clear coat systems are not that difficult to spray. Basecoats spray a lot like acrylic lacquer, Clear coats spray easier than the traditional Acrylic Enamels. Candy finish consists of a silver or gold basecoat with either a tinted clear clear (many coats) or pretinted candy color (see HOK ). Check out these links for paint supplies and info. INNATE http://www.innate.com/ ALSA http://alsacorp.com/index.htm HOK color charts http://www.smartshoppersinc.com/HouseOfKolor/color_chart_hok.html one more thing be prepared to pay $$$$ for real auto paint. Between epoxy primers, Primer surfacers, thinners, catalysts, basecoats, clears and clear catalysts I spent more than $1000.00 to paint my last car 5 years ago. Here is a recent paint job. HOK Limetime Green with clearcoat. 8 oz. of limetime and a 8 oz.kit of clear with thinner etc. set me back about 100 bucks. (almost as much as I paid for the motor!) If that is not in the budget there is always "RUSTOLEUM" sold by the gallon for about 40 bucks a gallon.
Thanks FB. That was the answer I was looking for. Appearantly, it is acceptable to use rattle can primer in red or black, bought from the hardware store, but not anything else. Here I thought Boyd was dead... sheeesh!
i would recommend going to a parts store that mixes paint and ask to see the dupont color books... they have a bunch of colors... one of wich i have used on a car before, and it turned out pretty damn burnt orange
You know you're a redneck when you custom paint your lawn mower engine. Ask an ass backwards question, get the right answers, then criticize the people who gave you those answers? Not cool. I want a really nice laquer paint job, wait, candy, but Home Depot only sells latex and oil based paints. What should I do?
Right... What's not cool is to jump into a thread without reading the initial question. I asked what the diff. was between the old school lacquer and the lacquer that you can buy for doing wood. (yes they do sell lacquer for wood at Home Depot) To the uninitiated they appear the same. the reference to the Kandy was because that is the only ref. HOK has for a clear tinted paint. And I wasn't criticizing the ones who did give answers, just the ones who responded like you. People don't post questions if they know the answers already. they also don't post expecting to be lit up like a xmas tree. If you want to share your knowledge, then share. keep your smartass comments to yourself.
I did read the original question. Maybe I'm mislead, but I really don't understand your jargon. 4 people told you not to use Home Depot laquer, and you still persisted. Then you mentioned you wanted a candy paint job, but were shopping in Home Depot for the color? As for Auto Air, they are waterbased colors. I have never used them but the majority of the time I see them used on bikes and airbrush work, nothing big. Talk to alteredpilot, he uses them religiously. Learn quickly, everyone on this thread answered your question in different manners. Some were assholes and sarcastic, others were quick and to the point with no sarcasm. I happen to be an asshole. Grow a thick skin when your a newbie.
How burnt orange are you wanting? I could custom tint you a transparent to go over a base that would give you a great laquer look... possibly even make it in laquer if you prefered...Let me know Jerry B...
This is helpful info. thank you. By the way I never mentioned Home Depot. I was simply asking if lacquer for wood was feasable for autos. So now that we've established that, let's move on.
If i were closer to you Jerry, I would def. take you up on your offer. I think by the time I finished paying shipping, taxes, brokerage fees and duty. I would be @ double the original price!
Hey, Your best bet is to go to you local Automotive paint store and ask to look at their chip books.. Find something in the ballpark and work with them to achieve the color you are looking for.. Just trying to help.. Jerry B.
You can't use wood products on your car they are two different surfaces and I think you will have a lot of problems with it just coming off in chunks they aren't meant for steal, if you want a cheap paint job then just buy some cheap paint but if you are looking for the cheapest substance known to man to put on your car then you need to rethink what you are trying to accomplish. Candy paint jobs are not cheap and if you want one then you just need to come up with the cash plain and simple.
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