ATTENTION CAL GUYS: They're trying to SCREW US AGAIN! Do your PART!!

This was sent to me by SEMA to distribute.

DO SOMETHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





Old Car Emissions Exemption Threatened in 8 California Counties; Hearing Scheduled for April 1

Legislation (S.B. 1549) has been introduced in the California State Senate by Senator Dean Florez (senator.florez@sen.ca.gov) to repeal the state's current emissions test exemption for pre-1976 vehicles registered by new owners in the San Joaquin Valley Unified Air Pollution Control District. The District includes eight counties in California's Central Valley: San Joaquin, Stanislaus, Merced, Madera, Fresno, Kings, Tulare and the valley portion of Kern. Under the bill, after Jan. 1, 2009, new owners seeking to register a pre-1976 vehicle in these eight counties would be subject to emissions tests for the life of the vehicle. S.B. 1549 is scheduled to be considered by the California Senate Transportation and Housing Committee on April 1, 2008.

We Urge You to Call, E-Mail or Fax Senator Florez and Members of the Senate Transportation Committee (List Attached) Immediately to Oppose S.B. 1549

Existing law in California exempts all pre-1976 vehicles from emissions testing.

California's current emissions testing exemption recognizes the minimal impact of pre-1976 motor vehicles on emissions and air quality.

Pre-1976 vehicles constitute a small and shrinking portion of the overall vehicle population in California and are a poor source from which to look for further emissions reductions.

Pre-1976 antique and classic vehicles are overwhelmingly well-maintained.

Repeal of the exemption in the San Joaquin Valley could lead the Legislature to target other areas in the state in the future.

Legislators and regulators are again feeling the heat from a failed effort to meet air quality goals and are looking for a convenient scapegoat. The old car hobby should not carry the burden of their mistakes, as it has in previous amendments to the old car exemption!
Please phone, fax or e-mail Senator Florez to express your opposition to S.B. 1549. Senator Florez can be reached at:

E-Mail: Senator.Florez@sen.ca.gov
Phone: (916) 651-4016
Fax: (916) 327-5989

Please phone, fax or e-mail members of the Senate Transportation and Housing Committee to express your opposition to S.B. 1549

California Senate Transportation & Housing Committee

(Click here to email all Committee members)

Senator Alan Lowenthal - Chair
Phone: 916/651-4027
Fax: 916/327-9113
Email: Senator.Lowenthal@sen.ca.gov

Senator Tom McClintock
Phone: 916/651-4019
Fax: 916/324-7544
Email: senator.mcclintock@sen.ca.gov

Senator Roy Ashburn
Phone: 916/651-4018
Fax: 916/322-3304
Email: senator.ashburn@sen.ca.gov

Senator Gilbert Cedillo
Phone: 916/651-4022
Fax: 916/327-8817
Email: senator.cedillo@sen.ca.gov

Senator Ellen Corbett
Phone: 916/651-4010
Fax: 916/327-2433
Email: senator.corbett@sen.ca.gov

Senator Bob Dutton
Phone: 916/651-4031
Fax: 916/327-2272
Email: senator.dutton@sen.ca.gov

Senator Tom Harman
Phone: 916/651-4035
Fax: 916/445-9263
Email: senator.harman@sen.ca.gov

Senator Christine Kehoe
Phone: 916/651-4039
Fax: 916/327-2188
Email: senator.kehoe@sen.ca.gov

Senator Jenny Oropeza
Phone: 916/651-4028
Fax: 916/323-6056
Email: senator.oropeza@sen.ca.gov

Senator Joe Simitian
Phone: 916/651-4011
Fax: 916/323-4529
Email: senator.simitian@sen.ca.gov

Senator Tom Torlakson
Phone: 916/651-4007
Fax: 916/445-2527
Email: senator.torlakson@sen.ca.gov

Senator Leland Yee
Phone: 916/651-4008
Fax: 916/327-2186
Email: senator.yee@sen.ca.gov

Please e-mail a copy of your letters to Steve McDonald at stevem@sema.org

 

argggghhhhh....

emails sent.

 

Not from Cali but fuck a bunch of that!!!

 

There was a thread about it yesterday, but I agree with Kirk,
"DO SOMETHING"

 

What would we do without Treehuggers like Senator Dean Florez trying to save the world?

The time has come to vote him out California.

 

... I don't live there anymore ether, BUT what they legislate in california sometimes, they try up here .so all you "northwest" guys keep your eye's open!!! sometimes they try to "sneak" one past us!

 

Here's the other thread on that...

R-

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=250896

 

"S.B. 1549 is scheduled to be considered by the California Senate Transportation and Housing Committee on April 1, 2008."

Hey, it's being "considered" on April Fool's Day... maybe we'll get lucky and this is all BS

-ns

 

First... We need to refer to it as a CLASSIC CAR EXEMPTION , not an old car exemption. Hell, next they will call it the Gross pollution exemption.

Second, I emailed each of them... although they wont give a rats ass.

Hyfire

 

Hate mail sent..... Damn Bureaucrats!

 

Im surprised its not hapining up here in the Santa Barbara area also. We have a lot of tree huggers here and there always trying to pass dumb shit stuff like this. Im going to email all of them anyways cause I think its a bunch of crap!

 

Just like the smoking ordinance...they *started* by banning it in restaurants, and now you can't smoke within 30 feet of a door or something much less inside....and that's all they need, a foot in the door...I dunno if anybody remembers but back in the day the smog exemption was supposed to be a 15 year rolling exemption, all cars 15 years old from the current model year or whatever were exempt!!!! I dunno whatever happened to that how they messed that up...

anyway i'll send out letters tonight.

Thanks Kirk!

 

Sorry to hear about this B.S......... once again the small guy having to put up with bad politics. Maybe if their really serious about emissions they should take more interest in the local airports.

 

Emails sent!

 

Here we go again
I’ll update the this threat later this afternoon
I did this not too long ago and it worked
Let’s hope it will work again

The <FANG> web guy for
http://www.thehotrodhaulers.com/index.htm
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Check it out
Dan is a very nice guy if it weren’t for him I wouldn’t have my 52 jeep wagon
Here in W.L.A. it would still be in Fresno

 

Question, when it says the vehicles will be subject to an emission test what exactly are they looking for ?
Over it goes something like

First used before 1/8/1975 - Visual test only. Failure for excess idle speed, dense blue or black smoke for 5 seconds at idle or during acceleration up to 2500rpm or half engine max speed whichever lowest.
First used between 1/8/75 and 31/7/86 - meter test CO <=4.5&#37;, HC<=1200ppm.
First used between 1/8/86 and 31/7/92 - meter test CO<=3.5%, HC<=1200ppm.

from here on they tighten up a bit.

So when they say emissions test how strict will it be ? sounds kinda dumb expecting say a 60s big block to meet modern day emission levels.

 

I am not over there, so won't affect me - yet anyway. Once it is somewhere, it will probably spread though. But, what I am wondering is what standards would they propose my '50s and 60's pre smog vehicles will be held to since they were never designed or made to comply with any standards? So, are they just going to make something up and tough luck if they don't pass? And if you can't make it pass, it just doesn't pass and have to spend a couple hundred bucks every time to "try" to "fix" when there is no fix for it and it as a way to just make it such a pain to have an older vehicle that you just finally give up and send it to the scrappers? I am pretty hardcore for the the environment and all, but this just seems pretty dumb to me. The valley needs to seriously deal with all the grossly polluting diesel tractors, trucks and chemicals they spray out there before they ruin a hobby that just can't really have that much impact. I don't think it is smog exempt cars/light trucks out there messing the air up, it is obviously all the farm stuff since that is 95&#37; of what is out there - cows too. One cattle pen probably produces more smog crap that all the smog exempt cars/light trucks being used in the whole proposed area.

 

Question, when it says the vehicles will be subject to an emission test what exactly are they looking for ?

it prolly means that you have to pass a tailpipe sniffer test for the year of your car and have all the stock crap on it. which is bullshit. if you have changed the motor you have to have the smog that goes with that year motor. which is bullshit too.

it will cost people with old cars millions of dollars and won't do a thing to clean the air which is typical of our fucked up government.

 

I sent messages to all of the Senator's e-mail addresses provided above. Most came back with a delivery failure notification and the rest sent a standard message reply that basically said that they only look at messages provided through their web site's message systems.

 

California isn't the only part of the country that's "tightening the screws."
Up here in Canada, each province is "modifying" California regulations to apply to PRE 1987 vehicles.
(or engines)

One approach that a number of us have tried - at least we're slowing the passing of new regulations / legislation - is to point out that ...
MOST of our VEHICLES are used for "hobby" purposes and are ONLY DRIVEN ON OCCASION!!

And that although we drive older - like 1932 Fords for example - the engines are FROM later model vehicles.
E.G. - 1987 (in probably 9 cases out of 10)

We spend an inordinate amount of time "tunning" our engines for best performance, which goes hand in hand with MINIMAL emissions.

WE aren't the PROBLEM; we're part of the SOLUTION!!

The people in the legislative positions, seem to think that we drive our vehicles EVERY DAY!
When in fact the "smoking" old (new?) taxi cab in front of them in traffic, is the one that should be REMOVED from the road!

But like I said above, A MAJORITY of us only drive our "pride and joy" on weekends and to special events.

 

I sent the following message to all of the listed e-mail addresses, and BCC'd Steve at SEMA. I already recieved an "undeliverable" message for the e-mail from Oropeza and Corbett. The rest will remain to be seen...


Dear Senators,

I am writing this e-mail to express my disapproval of, and disappointment in S.B. 1549.

I live in the Central Valley and am acutely aware of the air quality issues that we have here. That said, I do not support this needless piece of legislation that will do nothing to clean up the air here.

The exemption of classic cars from the smog laws exists for a reason; they represent a tiny portion of the vehicles on the road and that number shrinks every year on it's own.

As a voter, I am insulted that this is even being considered by my government. I want legislation that will solve the problems we are facing in this state, not bogus bills that are concocted to give the appearance of working to solve problems without angering any of your special interest lobbyists and campaign contributors.

I will be watching this bill, and I will be voting accordingly.

Sincerely,

David Sankey

 

So does this mean CAPITAL CAR SHOW April 1!!!!!

 

What should have been said on the front end of this thread is that this is a big bill, it has a lot more than old car restrictions. It is mostly meant to get older big rigs off the road, so when you guys email you should state that you dont like what applies to classic cars, or else if we just say the bill sucks we are going to look like a bunch of trucking company shills....


Hyfire

 

aaaahh i would say atleast i don't live out in cali. but MN is trying to pass CA emmission laws up here. and it seem like every year the adapt or try too pass some retarded califorina laws. it drives me crazy these wacked out politicans. need there teeth kicked in.

 

Well said! I'm going to save this email for a default template!

 

I really doubt the government wants to emissions test old vehicles as a way of cleaning our air, but more as a way to generate revenue. What kind of person who cares for our planet wouldn't want to get all those "old cars" emission tested?! I'd venture a guess and say our old cars would expel more emissions sitting in the EMISSIONS TESTING FACILITY line than running up to the hardware store or to the local cruise deal.

It's a typical "sounds right/feels good" bill. We can remind our "representatives" of the fact that our old cars contribute such a small amount towards the total pollution problem, but most know this already.

.....but yeah, it doesn't hurt to rattle their cages every once in a while.

 

http://info.sen.ca.gov/pub/07-08/bill/sen/sb_1501-1550/sb_1549_bill_20080222_introduced.html

I took a look at what I could find (at the above link) and section B (below) looks to be the change. Is there more information somewhere else? I see nothing on how this would be implemented if it passed. Similar to what others have said- what standard would a 1949 DeSoto Club Coupe have to comply with? Until there's some more information available, I don't see how it can be discussed intelligently by 'us' or 'them'.

(3) (A) Any motor vehicle manufactured prior
to the 1976 model-year.
(B) The exemption in this paragraph does not apply to a motor
vehicle registered by a new owner at an address within the boundaries
of the San Joaquin Valley Unified Air Pollution Control District on
or after January 1, 2009.


Thanks,
Kurt

 

bump

 

This kind of shit can and will spread like cancer to every greedy corner/state of this country if it don&#8217;t get stopped.

 

most californians i know claim to be trend setters. now is the time for cali residents to set a new trend and defeat some stupid legislation.
come on fellas we're all pulling for you to get it done so it will take longer for the madness to migrate to us.