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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by El Tortuga, Apr 2, 2008.

  1. El Tortuga
    Joined: Aug 24, 2006
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    Hey guys, I am wanting to step up to a gravity feed spray gun and retire my siphon guns. I was thinking about a small gun for engine compartments and door jams and then a larger one for complete paint jobs. I do not have a budget for a professional balls out spray gun but would like something middle of the road as far price. If I can buy a gun that would be versatile enough to do small and large areas that would be great. Anyways, there are so many guns out there I need some suggestions on what to look at. Thanks
     
  2. HighSpeed LowDrag
    Joined: Mar 2, 2005
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    HighSpeed LowDrag
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    from Houston

    The third time the ***** at work borrowed my Sata and didn't clean it up well afterwards, I bought a HVLP form Home Depot. When he wants to borrow a spray gun, that's what I lend him now.

    For under 100.00, it does a really decent job. I was surprised.
     
  3. lehr
    Joined: May 13, 2004
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    Why didnt you send the ***** to home depot to get his own ?
     
  4. zman
    Joined: Apr 2, 2001
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    from Garner, NC

    You could get a Devilbiss StartingLine set. They have one where there is a touch up gun and a full size for right around $140. Parts are easy to get. Watch they'll show up on eBay for $120 or so. My Cornwell dealer has them on the truck for
    $130...
     
  5. I'd rather lend my wife out than my Sata.
     
  6. lehr
    Joined: May 13, 2004
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    Got any pictures.....
     
  7. 36tbird
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    Do you have a Harbor Freight and Salvage near you? They put their middle sized gravity feeds on sale at times for as little as $12.99. That makes them practically disposable. I'm not a pro, just a guy at home doing some painting, but I've had good luck with these cheapies. Make sure you do some practice with the HVLP gravity feed as you go from a siphon feed. Use a lot less pressure and put out more volume and get a lot less overspray. Oh, get the cheapie stand for these things 'cuz they don't sit well like the old type between coats. Hope this helps.
     
  8. 35WINDOW
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  9. BigNick1959
    Joined: Oct 23, 2006
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    These guns work great. Keep an eye open at your local parts store, I was able to pick up a 2 gun set on a special for $80!!
     
  10. northerndave
    Joined: Mar 18, 2008
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    from Badger MN

    +1 on the devilbiss stuff.

    I've sprayed thousands of gallons of urethane through various brands/models of guns. Including the sata guns, bulletproof durability reliability, consistancy.. If you know how to use a gun, how much air to feed it, how to set your pattern for what you are doing, what nozzle/needle size to use with your visc, air caps... I'm just saying, if you know painting as intimately as I do you can develop a true & justified opinion. And I like the Devilbiss guns.

    That being said, another affordable brand that won't let you down is the Sharpe brand.

    both devilbiss & sharp put out some true performers wayyyy below the price of other brands such as the sata.
     
  11. Chops
    Joined: Oct 18, 2007
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    Sharpe and Devilbiss, are two well priced brands that won't let you down. I have been using Sharpe since I was a kid and I still do to this day. .

    Here is a great site that you can use to compare different brands, they have good package deals as well.

    http://www.tcpglobal.com/spraygundepot/
     
  12. northerndave
    Joined: Mar 18, 2008
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    from Badger MN

    chops, you use one of those old fat bodied sharpys? did they call it a 775 or something like that?

    Impressive guns, low bling, all function there.
     
  13. Kustomz
    Joined: Jun 7, 2006
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    I bought a Devilbiss Finishline gun and I really like it. As I have said before make sure you have a compressor with enough CFM's to use an HVLP gun.
     
  14. Slide
    Joined: May 11, 2004
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    I almost bought one of those sets a couple years ago, but I read somewhere that parts were pretty much non-existent for these (unlike the FinishLine guns). Glad to hear that's not the case (anymore?) as I've heard good things about these guns.

    I ended up getting an AirGunsa (by Iwata) primer gun on a deal from the paint store. I like it real good, seems well-built. Easy to clean, too.
     
  15. LUCIFR
    Joined: Mar 8, 2006
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    from Seattle

    if you can!! try and stay away from the plastic cups alot of the time the lower priced guns will use these and they strip out overtime with the chemicals.. always make sure you can have the option of using a metal cup or make sure the plastic cup has a metal thread insert in it
     
  16. Chops
    Joined: Oct 18, 2007
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    Yes actually I use two different ones now, I have the 775 and I also use the older 975. I also have a Sata gravity feed but I still prefer to use any of the Sharpes, I just like the flow and the feel alot better. Plus parts for the gun are a hell of a lot cheaper than the Sata.
     
  17. 53chevy
    Joined: Mar 5, 2001
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    I use Devilbiss and LOVE it! But, a big concern is the water base paints on the horrizon. Which changes everything. something to weigh in.

    Ken
     
  18. llonning
    Joined: Nov 17, 2007
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    I just bought an ATD6900 10 piece gun kit. Not the top of the line stuff, but for what I use it for it does the job right. It has everything that you need, and was about $100.00.
     
  19. HighSpeed LowDrag
    Joined: Mar 2, 2005
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    The ***** in question is 18 years old. Makes all of 6-7/hr. Basically a good kid. Like it or not, he's my helper. I'd rather buy him a gun he can learn on than have to prime every part that ever needs priming cause I won't let him use my good stuff.

    It's a convienence thing. You'ld have to work there to understand.
     
  20. overspray
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  21. newstranger
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    I dig my SATA... but I got a screamin' deal on it. You do get what you pay for in the spray gun world... I wouldn't use a cheap-*** HF gun for anything more than a primer gun.

    -ns
     
  22. 1931S/X
    Joined: Apr 5, 2007
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    from nj

    i bought a CIA from the local paint supply. 1.4 tip. all br***, plastic cup with metal threads. came with a regulator for 80 bucks. it was my first time shooting stuff with a gun and i picked it up pretty quick. ive used it for surfacer, epoxy and bc/cc. i think this gun works awsome. i want to buy a bigger tip for primer. one thing i really dont like is the plastic cup. i sprayed a bunch of rust oleum through it lots of stuff all different colors, and one time for some reason i got black stuck in side the cup it wont come off for anything. i dont really remember but ithink i left the gun sitting in the sun for a while on a hot day and it just baked it into the cup.
     
  23. SlowandLow63
    Joined: Sep 18, 2004
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    from Central NJ

    Definitely the way to go here. As well as that kit, they have many others at affordable prices. They aren't a bad gun either.

    A F'n Men. Well not really, but very close!
     
  24. jersey fink
    Joined: Feb 11, 2005
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    from jersey

    you cant go wrong on that kit
     
  25. devinshaw
    Joined: Oct 1, 2006
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    Devillbiss, and don't forget hvlp air line fittings.
     
  26. slddnmatt
    Joined: Mar 30, 2006
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    not to highjack i have a sata jet rp, only have the tip that came with it. what tips are nice to use on the basecoat, clear, and single stage?? i hav a old devillbiss siphon feed that i loved. something got screwed up in it spent a couple hundred to fix it but still no good. it layed paint so nice,,,i mis it
     
  27. I used a cheap $30 gun for spraying the primer, surfacer and metalic basecoat and then used a Warwick gun. It sprayed real nice for the clear coat. Turns out its an overseas copy of the Sata but it was only $130.
     
  28. kenbo
    Joined: Jan 12, 2007
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    from Texas

    I am a painter and I like SHARPS FINEX cobalt gravity spray gun. It cost about one hundred bucks and is a excellent gun. For urothane I like the 1.3 fluid tip and needle and for primer the 1.4 works great but the 1.3 works good for both. I also have a few SATA NR 95'S but they are costly,for the price the finex cant be beat.
     
  29. northerndave
    Joined: Mar 18, 2008
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    from Badger MN


    man, there should be no reason short of the gun body being crushed or cut in half that you can't get that old Devilbiss back in action.

    I sprayed OEM production with JGA body Devilbiss guns for years, when I made the statement above that I have sprayed thousands of gallons of paint, I wasn't kidding. Lots of frickin trigger time here & I've sprayed conventional, hvlp and compliance variations in all the major brands like devilbiss, binks, sharpe, sata... The devilbiss guns were always my favorite. IMHO, the sata is the most over rated. Sure it's a nice gun, but it's a lot of hype that brought people to believe it's the superior spray gun, people see the sata banors & paint suit logos on all the hot rod TV shows.

    A spray gun is a precision tool, there are certain brands that perform on an even level when new out of the box. I'd say the above mentioned guns all perform comparably when new out of the box. But I also believe the seperate twin valve style devilbiss guns (air valve seperate from fluid needle/valve) are the toughest guns & are the ones that are going to go the distance in the hands of a responsible painter.

    Anybody ever drop there spray gun on the floor by accident? Us painters would all like to be able to say "never" but the truth is it happens. Ever drop a sata? nice guns for sure, but very fragile & very expensive to buy parts for.

    I got side tracked now, what's wrong with your devilbiss dude? what's it doing, not doing? PM me if you like.
     
  30. storm king
    Joined: Oct 16, 2007
    Posts: 1,989

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    There's another forum out there (I know, I know; it's hard to believe) called autobodystore.com that has a bit of good info on it as well.
     

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