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425 olds in a T sedan

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by oldsboy, Apr 20, 2008.

  1. oldsboy
    Joined: Oct 24, 2005
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    So, I woke up this morning craving a 4 speed manual behind my 425 in the t-sedan I'm building. Yesterday I was planning on building it with the th400 (with switch pitch converter). The question is should i follow my idea of the 4 speed or run with the initial plan. And if so how would you guys suggest switching the 425 to a manual ******?
     
  2. 73RR
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    Either way you'll never get it to hook-up so why not have some fun banging gears?? If memory serves, all of the BOP related parts should interchange. Perhaps a GM tech type will jump in and then I can ask the same question about the Cad 500......:)
     
  3. ***Area-51***
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    get yourself a bop bellhousing , and the correct flywheel for the 425 olds....and the rest is standard gm stuff....
     
  4. duffman
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    do some research first, I may be mistaken but I don't think the 425 was offered with a manual trans behind it...............my friend had a built 425 in his 69 cutlas 'vert with th400; well, he found a wrecked 442 with 400 4spd and the plan was set to swap the 4speed behind the 425. All was going smooth as ****er until we discovered the 425 crank was not machined for a pilot bearing/bushing. We did finally get the job done but it was more involved than our original saturday project.
     
  5. Candy-Man
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    The 401/425 was offered with a 4 speed hehind it, however; this was a very rare option. You will require a 4 speed starter which is not standard GM stuff, as the 4 speed starters have a different nose length on the starter as compared to the automatic. The pilot bearing will have to be machine out of br*** for the end of the 401/425 crank. "Offy" does offer two adapter plates which bolt together to form the bell, using a long style release bearing out of a 50's Chev P/U. OR, you can now purchase a complete kit for the 401/425 nailhead to a 4 speed which solves all of your problems of matching parts together.......
     
  6. skajaquada
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    from SLC Utard

    listen to duffman. you gotta have the crank machined for the pilot. you're looking at lots of searching, fabricating and a hefty price tag on all the goodies to do that unless you find all the stuff in a car you can get cheap...good luck on a cheap 4sp BBO of any kind :p

    i'm running a switch pitch behind my 461 olds i'm putting in my truck. just got the sp this morning in fact...love the u-pull it yards ;)
     
  7. chaddilac
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    I think I'm going to have to see pics of the project before I can have an opinion!:D
     
  8. oldspert
    Joined: Sep 10, 2006
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    Whatever you do DO NOT use a Saginaw four speed behind the 425. The torque of that engine will shred the Saginaw the first time you hit the gas.
     
  9. duffman
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    Blown32 he is talking 425 OLDS not nailhead
     
  10. aerorocket
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    from N.E. P.A.

    What stepchild and duffman said. The 425 is a great engine, factory forged crank, short stroke compared to the 455 and 68 up 400. You'l love it.
     
  11. oletruck
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    from Hurst, TX

    It won't hurt the Saginaw unless it gets traction.
     
  12. Candy-Man
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    Sorry I didn't read the post, I'm talking NAILHEAD as I built one of these three years ago for a model 'A' coupe which I have since sold. The buyer removed the 4 speed and put an automatic in this rod. All the parts (Offy plates, flywheel, pilot bearing & starter) can be purchased from a fellow named Steve at (905) 839-4422 in Ontario, Canada...
     
  13. oldsboy
    Joined: Oct 24, 2005
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    Wow, thanks for the responses guys, the work seems like it would be a little more involved than I had originally thought however I think I may still roll with it since it will be a little while unfortunately before it all gets bolted together. Though as soon as I do pics will be posted. As it sits now chadillac its simply an A frame on a table with the body lying next to it, with parts ****tered across nebraska. However the body is without the bullet holes now.
     

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