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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Dan, Sep 29, 2003.

  1. Dan
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    gonna have the kids in shop try and "letter" our Pair-A-Dice logo on the A door. Don't want to spend the money on 1-shot, is their any okay substitute that I could pick up at the hardware store? Do I need to and how do I thin it? Was thinking maybe testors model paint but I hate those little bottles?? Thanks-
     
  2. james
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    Testors is thin and it will look like a hack job. Buy the little cans of one shot, usually about $5-8 bucks depending on color.
     
  3. DrJ
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    There is no substitute.
    Get your one shot here http://www.pearlart.com/ if you don't like the local prices.
    The Testors will fade in the sun faster than it takes to put it on, which will take for ever and a day to do a good job.
    Besides the wrong paint will only frustrate the "kids" in the shop.
    Sorta like trying to learn to play guitar on a cheap guitar with typically way too high strings.
     
  4. El Caballo
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    from Houston TX

    My experience is that Testors makes good model paint, period. That stuff does not hold up to exposure to real weather. Put a crowbar in your wallett and get the real stuff.
     
  5. Dan
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    Put a crowbar in your wallet, thats funny! Good point about frustrating the kids, it is hard to do a good job with crappy materials. I have never done of this before, do we use the paint right out of the can or does it need thinned in any way? What is the best way to care for the brushes? What size/type brushes do I need? The logo is basically letters and bigger "graphics" not really any fine lines. Thanks-
     
  6. pullin' lines takes practice. I probably wouldn't practice on my ride.
    Get an old hood, or a piece of plexi-glass.
    Oneshot is cheap in the whole scheme of things.
    There's some good stripping/lettering advice in the techomatic, stripping questions?
    Some guys thin it some guys don't, ya just gotta play with it.

    if it don't get ya dirty it aint yours
     
  7. RF
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    House of Kolor's striping paint is really good. It dries a lot faster than 1-Shot, so you don't have to wait hours to handle or clearcoat.
     
  8. dixiedog
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    Dan - Do you have an art teacher at the school? If so ask if you can borrow a long bristle lettering brush and practice on an old panel. do your layout on paper by hand to get the "feel" of how your going to attack it.
     
  9. dollarfordollar
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    if you got any friends that own or work at autopaint shops you could just bum some single stage enamel or if your in good at the local parts place that has a paint dept also, you could tell em that you need to try out some colors..same thing single stage enamel..good luck
     
  10. Dan
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    Just looking through Eastwood and realized the 1-shot really isn't that expensive, might give it a try. Our logo actually has the city and state under it as well but I must have posted the wrong one. I think we'll give it a shot, worse thing that can happen is we have to sand it off, right?

    And RF, I just started reading Custom Rodder after a long hiatus and think you are doing a great job. I think your tech articles are some of the better ones out there. Keep it up, I like it.
     
  11. Unkl Ian
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    [ QUOTE ]
    House of Kolor's striping paint is really good. It dries a lot faster than 1-Shot, so you don't have to wait hours to handle or clearcoat.

    [/ QUOTE ] HOK is more expensive than 1-Shot,and needs to be catalized if it isn't being cleared over.
     
  12. Unkl Ian
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    [ QUOTE ]
    Just looking through Eastwood and realized the 1-shot really isn't that expensive,

    [/ QUOTE ] Eastwood is probably the most expensive place to get 1-Shot.Try Pearl,Dick Blick,N Glantz,or Mid West Sign Supply.Or look in the Yellow Pages under "sign supplies".
     
  13. RF
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    We did no catalyzing yesterday to the HoK paint. Concept clear went over perfectly. I'm staring at the tank right now. I think it's worth the extra pennies, but that's just my two pennies. I ain't no damn painter!

    Dan, thanks!
     
  14. [ QUOTE ]
    Just looking through Eastwood and realized the 1-shot really isn't that expensive, might give it a try.

    [/ QUOTE ]
    DON'T get it from eastwood..they are overpriced..you should be able to get it through the school at a discount?
     
  15. james
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    If you've never lettered and want it to look really professional, go to your local vinyl sign shop and have them cut it, but ask them to "reverse weed it" so you'll have a stencil. Put it on, brush on the paint, and peel it off. Presto-hand painted letters, and the spacing, etc will be right. Most places won't charge much. And then if you want to add drop shadows or outlines, that'll be pretty easy to freehand.
     
  16. D Picasso
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    Rustoleum, or X-O Rust from Ace Hardware. very inexpensive, works OK. bit runnier than I like and sets up a tad slower than One Shot, but it'll do.

    no cheap sub for brushes, though.
     
  17. Unkl Ian
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    [ QUOTE ]
    , but ask them to "reverse weed it" so you'll have a stencil. Put it on, brush on the paint, and peel it off.

    [/ QUOTE ] Instead of using regualr vinyl,use "paint mask" or "spray mask".Designed for making stencils,it is easier to remove because it has a lower tack,and therefore less likely to damage the base coat.
     
  18. Go to your local Ace Hardware or mom and pop hardware store and just get a gallon of oil based enamel paint. Same as one shot, or so I been told.
     
  19. Dan, I have an account at our paint store here, I can send some up to ya? Itll cost ya some Guinness [​IMG]
     
  20. Dan
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    Cool idea using the sign shop to make a stencil, we have a couple of them around here and I'll check it out. Our logo is saved in a word program so I should be able to just bring in a disc?? Tman, I'll visit with you - we may try and come up in October and maybe we can take a little shopping trip - I can grab that tranny from you too!
     

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