SBFcross ram =Q=

So anybody ever see one of these? Rare or what?
I had no idea they were ever made. I had all but given up on finding a street gasser worthy sbf intake.
Just figured id have to build a big $$$$ FE.
Im thinkin the Vomet will rule with this baby on it.

 

Very cool, I've never seen one.

 

I've been all over the world & parts of Georgia and I ain't never seen no shit like that!

When I first saw the topic, I thought you got a 2x4 and those Offy cross-ram plenums bolted on...

 

That is SWEET!!!!!

What is the Edel part #??

 

Cool intake,I hope you put it to use... Edelbrock came out with small Ford cross-ram intakes in 65 and although it is much less common than a Chevy this the most often found SBF unit of this kind because it was made for the longest period of time.

The Mickey Thompson power-ram comes out in 64 and generally brings a higher price as it is much more rare. I know of one M/T in the original box, the guy wants $800 for.Not bad by ebay prices since the last one on there topped out at around $750 for a broken manifold with a pair of junk Weber made AFB's.

 

Says X-F8

 

Algon
Nice info didn’t know about the M/T ether, that would be even coooler.
Iv been trying to decide if I could even afford to build the car the way I want. Iv been looking at a friends algon for a FE and pricing 427 parts and the motor was going to kill me.
Yes it will get used.
This thing will give the small block some appropriate attitude.

 

if anything those just plain look awesome

 

We have one on the shelf at the shop with the linkage. My buddy ran it on one of his motors for a while back in the early 70's. There's a 289 powered '65 Comet from around here with one on it too (with Gurney-Westlake heads as well) The manifold works OK but looks TITS! You'll make more power with a good single 4 barrel but you'll make more friends with X-F8.

We've also got one for a BBC sitting on our office floor as I speak. Cool intake.

-Bigchief.

 

I was going to buy the M/T before I found the Algon unit I have for 289.... 660 center squirters work well to to keep the intake "wet" making up for the long runner. This hole in time is where alot of the problems in throttle repsonse are. Crossrams can be an outright pain to tune in correctly to make power but it can be done at the surprise of many. Anyone can bolt on an old intake, getting it to flow,and feed an engine well takes some doing.

Its newer than most of my interests but I'd like to have the Autolite dual inline fourbarrel Cross Boss to play with. That'd be fun, all the problems of a bastard four pot Weber knockoff and a cross ram at the same time.

 

Stupidly expensive and, to my knowledge, only available for Boss 302, so won't fit standard 302. Of course, you can make a poor man's boss by bolting on Cleveland 4bbl heads with some minor mods...

I love the autolite inline 4-bbls - if I had one, I'd likely try to adapt it to an EFI lower rather than chase the Cross Boss - but they are very cool intakes.

A friend of mine had one with the single top...he wanted $1500 for the intake alone - back in 1985!!!

 

There is a local guy here that owns, almost exclusively, CobraJet and Boss cars. Many of them. MANY of them. He's got Autolite in-line carbs on intakes (single and Cross-Boss) as well as many other 'cream your panties' hard core Ford induction set-ups sitting as decorations on end tables, coffee tables and display shelves throughout his house. Crazy stuff.

 

The last time I saw one it was on egay for $1500 with no bids. Oh if only I weren't a poor kid...

If the large plenum volume causes a problem with street running, plan on running a larger motor. If you put the same intake on a 347, the higher volume of air being consumed by the motor will increase the velocity through the intake and keep the fuel suspended in the mixture. The way I see it, if you can afford one of those awesome intakes, you can probably afford to drop the same amount of money on a stroked bottom end. Just my .02

 

My brother had one of those on the 289 in his Pro-Streeted Pinto wagon, back in the early 80s. Picked up from some guy who walked in to the speed shop he was working at, for $90!!

As I recall, he had a pair of 750 vac. sec. Holleys on it, and was able to get a local guy to tune it so that it actually worked quite well on his hot 289. Looked pretty wicked with a pair of Holleys and velocity stack air cleaners coming out of the Pinto hood side by side.


cheers
Ed N.

 

I picked up a M/T cross ram a few years ago, any ford crossram is pretty rare.

 

I have one for my 62Falcon project but I am not sure I can get the carbs under the K member. I won't be working on that project untall late fall after I get my 54 project done.

jim h

 

"Stupidly expensive and, to my knowledge, only available for Boss 302, so won't fit standard 302. Of course, you can make a poor man's boss by bolting on Cleveland 4bbl heads with some minor mods..."

"I love the autolite inline 4-bbls - if I had one, I'd likely try to adapt it to an EFI lower rather than chase the Cross Boss - but they are very cool intakes."

That is where the "Boss" part comes from... I'm all for cutting up most anything to your own interest but an Autolite inline 4-barrel is something I'd use as intended. I want one for what it is not what it looks like...

 

that edelbrock is the 3rd one i have seen. i started to buy one for my small motor ford but i thought it would be way too much for the street so i bought a 2x4 offy instead. it had the add on runners with the linkage to make it a cross ram. pretty neat stuff i still have the runners and linkage somewhere in the attic but the 2x4 went with the car when i sold it.

 

I picked up one of those M/T crossrams for a SBF a few years ago. A Ford friend told me it didn't require a special distributor. Been thinking of unloading it to finance a 3x2 setup for a SBC.

 

Anyone got the valve covers that came out with these forsale ? I got stupid and sold mine.... They did find a good home though.

 

I agree - I just don't foresee me ever having a Boss 302 in anything other than a Boss 302 Mustang (as if I'll ever have one), but would use an autolite inline in a heartbeat & adapt it to an EFI intake...

 

I've only seen one other set and they were in a pic on the HAMB. I've been looking for a set ever since.

Gus

 

They are the same pair...

 

I Have A New Cross Ram For A Ford It Was Never On A Car But From Sitting Got Pitted The Guy I Got It From Said He Had The Box But It Got Wet I've Never Seen One With The Carb Base Like Mine And It Has No Numbers Just MT On It It Will Look Awesome On My Roadster Hey Can Any Body Tell Me If They Have A Port In The Back Of The Intake Or Is There A Freeze Out Plug ThereTHOSE VALVE COVERS ARE COOL TOO.

 

They look cool but don't work worth a damn

 

It depends on what you compare it to, its not a brand new Dominator single plane nor is it sedate beginner friendly Performer single four. This is an old speed part, then as well as now it takes custom cut cams, modified carbs, and experience to make it run at its best. A buddy with a flow bench doesn't hurt either.

If you've got an all out drag car or if you'd rather polish your billet than tune carbs then no I wouldn't use it. The main thing that gives a cross ram or any old multicarb intake a bad name are guys that bolt mismatched parts on them that they think look cool and when it doesn't idle perfect or push the same kind of power as their buddies' more modern set-up they bag on it.

Is a rare speed part worth a little less power, or more money/time to make it work on period style car. I think so, but if you're not into it that much, maybe not.

 

Thanks for the info all.
I didn’t mention before that I got the intake with carbs and linkage. I just figured the guy stuck on a pair of 600’s or 650’s to make it look good. I just checked the holley’s numbers, there 450’s
I cant believe it.

 

To much CFM on your intake will cause loss of power and bog on the low end.
Many street driven engines over carburation is a problem.
I plan on runing a pair of Weber 36/32DVGs 290CFM each or a pair of Holly 390 CFM 4 barrels. I have the Webers I would have to make adpators.

jim h

 

An old post but I have a cross ram on my 64 Pro street Comet. I have been running it for about 10 years now first on a 302 and now on a 347 with no problems. It does require a low gear in the car to keep the r's over 2000 but I run a 4.56 gear with a 5 speed so I have no problems.I run 450 mechanical Holley's and used a tunnel ram linkage for a small block Chevy and through out the rod and set screw type that came with it. You can see a picture of my setup in the Dec. 2006 issue of hot rod or check here.
http://www.hotrod.com/featuredvehicles/hrdp_0612_pro_street_romp/1964_mercury_comet_caliente.html