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Ford spindles on Mopar axle?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by lownrusty, Jun 17, 2004.

  1. lownrusty
    Joined: Aug 15, 2003
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    Anybody done this swap? 32 desoto axle to 40 ford spindles? Anybody?
     
  2. El Caballo
    Joined: Mar 3, 2001
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    from Houston TX

    Can't be done...

    Just kidding, El Rio Roach did it on a Plymouth axle. Look for his post "Progress Pics 2" or something like that.
     
  3. NealinCA
    Joined: Dec 12, 2001
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    Here is a link to el Roach's post.

    Progress Pics 2

    When did Chrysler start using the tube axles? Till when?

    I need to know what to look for. I want to build a 30's styled T roadster and want a tube axle up front on parallel leaf springs.

    Neal
     
  4. T Hudson
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  5. kustomfordman
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    I'm looking for some details about the spindle swap as well. I've picked up some pointers here and there, but would love to find an all inclusive "tech" article on this. Please point me in the direction if there is such a post.

    Here is mine with the Plymouth spindles reversed. I wouldn't mind just keeping them, but there really isn't a lot of meat at the top of them to mount any kind of steering arm. The brakes on these are 11" x 2" and same style as early Ford juice ones. If I do make the spindle swap however, I think I would be looking to go to Lincoln or F-100.

    Never mind the square tubing bolted to the top of my batwings...I am still mocking up my 4-bar. The tubing is holding my axle in place so it doesn't roll out while I set the 4-bars up.

    Do the Ford spindles have the same centering in relation to kingpin as the Plymouth spindles...I guess I need to go look at that.
     

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  6. toddc
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    Hey kustomfordman,

    With your spindles reversed like that, the Ackerman geometry is all wrong. Which in English means that your tires will scream when you go round a bend.

    With the tie rod in front of the king pins, the tie rod ends need to be further from the center of the car than the king pins. The opposite is true for tie rod behind axle.
     

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  7. farm boy
    Joined: Oct 25, 2006
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    Yes, as I remember, a little grinding on back side (Plymouth axle boss bigger OD) ford pin and load brg both worked. Had to ream the boss a little bigger.Held pin with set screw.
    modified speedway tie-rod arms to mount on top so the "Akerman" would work.

    Good luck, OLY

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  8. big-daddy-george
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    I've been doing it since 1968. I just finished up my 37 Plymouth stock car replica with Ford spindles in the axle. The easy part is reaming the axle for the Ford King pin. The tricky part is taking a slice out of top the axle near the ends and moving it in and welding it up. If you do not do this when you turn the wheel the tires will tilt outward at the top on both sides and you'll be riding on the outside edge of the tire while turning.
     
  9. JOECOOL
    Joined: Jan 13, 2004
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    HUMMMM, I just ran to the garage and checked,mine don't seem to do that.It looks like to me if you have a ton of caster maybe you would get some tilt.
    I guess I can't see how it would tilt out on Both sides. Maybe there is some difference in years of parts.
     

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