New steel roadster bodies & why the cost is so different ?

So I was looking at the new Rod & Custom magazine , and noticed the prices of the roadster bodies . . . I think I remember this being talked about a few years ago , but what the **** is the difference between a brand new 32 body ( $10,500 ) , and a brand new 30 / 31 body ( $5,400 ) , that would make it cost an extra $5000 ? Are there $5000 worth of extra parts & stampings , or does it take an extra $5000 worth of ***embly time ? That doesn't seem right to me . Seems like $5000 worth of bragging rights . . .

 

hmmmmmm,

 

demand will allow it.. plus the need to recoup the tooling to created I would think. the others have been out a long time and when they were created the tooling was less I would think. my 2 cents

 

two big things... ***embily time and supply and demand

one part of it is that the A bodies bolt together, where as the 32s are more labor intensive to fit and weld together.

also its what people will pay...

watch out for a new entry soon if the rumblings I have heard are true, a new option in repop steel 32s, however I hear they are coming from off shore, as turn key or less motor and trans.

 

Belive Boones is right . Brookville startet making a few model-A replacement parts. Parts sold helped finance the adding of new parts to their list , and before they knew it , they had more or less all parts needed to offer complete A-bodys . It kinda financed itself by the replacement parts sale . When they decided to make the Deuce roadster , they had to dig up the $$$ up front , so things got exspensive . They had to sell A lot of deuce bodys to brake even , So they realy took a BIG Risk . I love them for takin` it

 

Also, the roundeed curves and reveals of the 32 make for more expensive dies. I will agree that there is a little "cache" markup on the 32 stuff just because.

 

'32 ANYTHING is more money,just becasue they can.

 

The truth is....most "car guys" don't know a deuce from a model A anyways....so save some bucks and buy an Abone....cheaper and more traditional to boot....just don't forget the smallblock chevy motor.

 

**** that !..........build a custom.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...................

 

sorry but in my opinion an A roadster is better lookin than the "DEEPER" 32-sorry-it just looks too darned tall thru the body side..........OK let me have it.

 

I just don't ****ing know.

 

do you know how much fibergl*** & plaster i can get for 5 grand!!!!!! thats alot of roth bubble tops!
FRITZ

 

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do you know how much fibergl*** & plaster i can get for 5 grand!!!!!!
thats alot of roth bubble tops! FRITZ

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I bet you still get *****s *****ing at you because "You RUINED a nice old car!"

Or claiming their Grandfather had one just like it.

 

I agree.

 

i agree choprods....gotta channel them ****ers to get them right....or run real big tires...the edelbrock car looks good for some reason though....although there is room for a supercharger ontop the motor if they're unchanneled...darn superchargers are on my mind now...but hey to each their own....build what you like...and leave the A's for me!

zach

 

It takes a large shop with many employees to produce what Brookville does. I've been visiting them since they were a small shop producing patch panels for Model A's. I've bought two '32 bodies (sold one, still have the other), and many Model A components from them and feel I've gotten my money's worth with every purchase. I guess it has something to do with the fact I don't have a few million dollars laying around to make my own.
BTW, the Model A bodies are the bargin of the century as they are far more labor intensive than the '32's.

Frank

 

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BTW, the Model A bodies are the bargin of the century as they are far more labor intensive than the '32's.

Frank

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See right there , that's just crazy . . . so they should cost more than the 32's realisticly . . . oh well . I'm not knocking the product , just wondering outloud .

 

I wonder how much of a "mark-up" gets factored into those bodies anyway...

 

to hell with that old stuff, anybody hear that "they" are gonna be making repop steel first gen camaro bodyshells? wonder what those will go for. i thought there were plenty of camaro "cores" left.

i don't buy that there is more labor to putting together a model a body over a deuce, but i don't know i've never done either. but there is a significant amount more work into the parts/dies in the manufacturing of a deuce body.

 

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It takes a large shop with many employees to produce what Brookville does. I've been visiting them since they were a small shop producing patch panels for Model A's. I've bought two '32 bodies (sold one, still have the other), and many Model A components from them and feel I've gotten my money's worth with every purchase. I guess it has something to do with the fact I don't have a few million dollars laying around to make my own.
BTW, the Model A bodies are the bargin of the century as they are far more labor intensive than the '32's.

Frank

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i agree that it takes a lot of money/effort to produce the dies to make any old ford body. i'm sure the A dies where paid for a long time ago,and the 32 dies must of cost a pile of money....but i don't think brookville is ripping anybody off with their pricing.

as for the difference i cost for A's versus `32's....i've talked to two guys who have bought the parts in kit form from them to ***emble their own bodies and i was told the 32's are just a ***** to put together,and wouldn't do it again..

 

'gl*** is cheaper and just as real.

 

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The truth is....most "car guys" don't know a deuce from a model A anyways....so save some bucks and buy an Abone....cheaper and more traditional to boot....just don't forget the smallblock chevy motor.

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I kinda agree.
Dont get me wrong a 32 is a thing of beauty , milestone car etc but a 31 with a 32 grille will catch loads of people out.

I really like 31's . price helps but they are more trad. looking in my eyes and havent fallen foul to the 'cheque book/catalogue crowd' as much due to most of them being told ''what you want is a '32 Roadster''

Probably just as well everyone doesnt think like me or 31's would be priced out of the game also !!

Hers a nice one from e-bay a few weeks back to fight my case.......

 

Ray and 36-3window, Take a trip to Brookville, Ohio and tour the Brookville Roadster plant. Talk to the men who put them together and I won't have to report anything , you'll see and hear for yourself. From the horses mouth, the A bodies are about 50-60% more labor to put together than the '32 bodies, I've watched them do it many times and it's an accurate comaparison. As far as putting a '32 body together if they are reporting it's a ***** to do I guess that's a matter of what experience you have and how clever you are. When the '32 bodies are put together in the sequence Brookville does it isn't rocket science and the initial fit is better than the A bodies. ON the other hand the A bodies require more fine tuning as they go together. That's one of the reasons I said the A bodies are such a bargain. Brookville themselves will tell you it's better for you to have them ***emble your A body instead of trying to do it yourself.

Frank

 

well alot of people put a A on 32 rails and it looks great but the frame price is just as much as doing a 32 and everything else is priced the same also except for the five thousand or so dollars in initial body price. But if you ever sell the car there will be more than five thousand dollars difference between a comparable 32 or 31. I know we dont build these things to sell for the most part but that extra five grand up front will more than pay for itself in the long run. Just my 2 cents.

 

Wow.. check this out, from their site.. I can't believe it!

http://www.brookville-roadster.com/3WINDOWCOUPE/INFO-DEPOSITSHEET.pdf

 

Don`t let us get carried away waaay away !! The 28 / 29 Bodies are EASY to ***emble !!! The 30 / 31 bodys are like some kind of automotive-karozzerie-HELL !!! The Deuce bodies are nice & pretty easy to ***emble , but if you want perfection beyond Ford-standards in 1932 , then you will have to be on top of things !!!! Don`t care much for this *****in`about prices .... Without those "Body-builders" we would have to own a Oil-mine to afford a steel deuce roadster !

 

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Wow.. check this out, from their site.. I can't believe it!

http://www.brookville-roadster.com/3WINDOWCOUPE/INFO-DEPOSITSHEET.pdf


AYE CARUMBA . . . $20,000 ! ! !


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we would have to own a Oil-mine to afford a steel deuce roadster !

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Really ??



Not IF you bought one 25 years ago..........


I believe REAL CAR GUYS.........know the difference between a Model A roadster and a Deuce.....

Deuces have more room inside than a Model A.

Deuces can ride better............more wheelbase....

As a general rule.......the repro Brookville 32 roadster will bring more than the 5 grand difference in price for the repro Brookville Model A, when both are finished to the same level.

I like Model A's, .......never owned one .
Most of the folks who moan and whine about 32 prices and how they are overated NEVER had one.

Sort of like a 12 year old boy talking about all his ***ual conquests.....




Had a fellow in our little circle of car guys who loved to wear a shirt he bought that said..

32 Fords and teenage Pus*Y .........two of the most overated things in the world.

He would wear it everytome he knew I was going to be around..........until I asked him " How would you know ?? You never had either........."

Never saw the shirt again.....

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To me it's all about what you want ....I like 32's as fendered and hooded hotrods...but...they look wrong when done as hoodless hiboys....the motors sit way too low in the engine compartment, unless you run a blown hemi....that looks right in the profile shot.

I think the guys back "in the day" had it right....roll the deuce body off the ch***is at the junkyard,,,throw the fenders in the trash...along with your "rare and desirable" 25 louver hood and stick a model A body back on....now you have a hot rod.

The people who really love these cars arent "car guys"...it's the kids on bikes and pretty girls in mercedes that get a kick outta what we are doing....too many dip****s with old cars spewing their ****ed up rules don't get it....they are too wrapped up in their possesions....and what they think is a creation...I think they actually believe they created it... In reality it is just an ***emblage of bits and pieces made by someone else........except for Ken and Ray Gollahan and the crew at brookville...they actually take flat sheet metal and CREATE something that very few people would ever be able to do.

Just my opinion....hot rods arent important....just fun...like bowling or golfing....and none of these things are to be worshipped.

 

Actual cost of the 32 versus the A's should not be that much more for brookville- the cost of dies and number of dies should be about the same- usually in automotive production the cost of steel body panels is considered to be rated at a certain amount per pound of finished (stamped metal)(but I don't know current cost because I'm not in body design)

the difference in cost is because one's a 32 and one isn't

since the 32 is considered the body style to "have" it can get more money for it

just look at the prices on anything 32 ford- it is at least double to triple for what anything else is on ebay and the swap meets
hence they can get double for the bodies