Just to let you guys and gals know,If by chance you looking to buy any high dollar tool boxes on craigslist,make sure the owner can provide a legit reciept to show that its been paid for.A lot of guys are buying these boxes,then changing their career field and trying to sell them for profit.We just has a guy at our shop who was a complete hack get fired after 1 week.The next week he has his box on craigslist for 5k. The Matco guy found out who's it was and came and repo'd the box and said he owed 8k on tools and the box.He also said if one of us had bought it and he found it he can repo it from the purchaser as it is "stolen" property.Just lookin out for the fellow HAMBer.
There are big $$ tool boxes for sale on Craigslist all the time here in Atlanta. Some appear to be new but mostly without tools. Thanks, N B R
i kinda dont think so... not unless the tool guy can put a lien on the box and contents, which i dont believe he can seeing as how there isnt a ***le for the ****... the original purchaser is still on the hook for the tools and box, not someone who might buy it.
Sometimes the law does really ****. This actually happened to me once (not with a tool box though). The cop happily took my newly purchased property, and told me I would have to sue the seller to get my money back. That was a great suggestion, I could sue a guy that was on his way to prison. I wonder how long it would have taken to get my money back? Bill of sale didn't help either. You're still in possession of stolen property, and they still take it back. I hadn't actually thought about this as it pertains to online purchases yet, but there is certainly a possibility of losing money.
I am sure you ca lose "stolen" property, but I am not sure how the law addresses tools/boxes that someone owes money on. For all you know, the original owner was supposed to pay off what he owed with what you paid him. I guess maybe a copy of a receipt marked "Paid" and signed for might help, but I suspect that most tool boxes are ac***ulated over time. I also expect the law varies from state to state. Maybe you should just pay cash and don't leave a name or number when you leave with the box.
I think everyone is missing a point here, if a guy buys a toolbox from Snap-On, Matco or whoever, and decides to sell it and still owes money on it, he is the one liable for the balance. The Matco guy cannot come and take it from you. At least that is the law in Texas - the way I understand it. If the toolbox loan is written up with the toolbox itself listed as calateral, then yea, that`s like selling a car you owe money to the bank on.
pretty much universal these days... hell, i dont think a tool guy is gonna let something leave the truck unless you have a "snap-a-mac-atco" charge card or credit account of some sort... used to be a time i can remember when a revolving credit account between the tool guy and a mechanic was common, but not these days.
Do these tools and tool boxes have REGISTERED serial numbers and "pink slips"? Now I'm wondering about the origin of the tool box I inherited from my Grandfather in '63.... Are we getting to the point where we should we worry that everything we buy at a swap meet might get confi****ed because it "might" be stolen? Cars get confi****ed from the current unlucky owner who has no idea that it's valid looking ***le from some state looks and should be totally legitimate. What's with that? And remember, we (Europeans) stole all of this Continent form the Native Americans. Should we give it all back now because it was stolen in the first place? What if the MATCO dealer was the one who skipped with the merchandise in the first place? Every time I go into Target, I worry that they are going to ask to see a reciept for my socks...
if you buy something from the guy who owns it it is not stolen. you can't compare this with buying a car that has not been paid for because the car belongs to the bank. you would not be able to register it. it would all depend on the payment agreement between the buyer and the tool guy.
If you purchase a tool box from a private individual that is deliquent on the payments to the tool dealer then I have heard of cases in which that dealer will come & try to negotiate with you the purchaser to get the box back. Sometimes they will offer you another box to trade out for the one that is in question. We have a neighbor that is a District Manager for Mac Tool. He has stated that this does happen. They try really hard to make it right for the secound purchaser and not put them in a spot.
For once, I am relieved that all I can afford is a Craftsman tool box! I don't think Mr. Roebuck is going to come looking for his $400 "Anniversary Edition" box any time soon! I had something like this happen to a neighbor when I lived in Virginia. He bough the house across from us. The previous owner was a pretty shady guy. About 2 months after the new owners moved in, they get home from work and their barn is GONE (with everything in it)! Sometime during the day, the company the sold it to the previous owner, who wasn't making the payments on it, backed into their yard with a flatbed and ******ed the ****er outta there. The new owners of the home were in and out of court for months and eventually got it back. Crazy ****.
The tool guy can repo the box,because it is still his property until the contract has been satisfied.Its the same as a car.The lein holder doesn't care who purchased it second hand,they have to secure their interest in it,which means reposession if no payments have been made.
Im with chaddilac, if some dude that cant keep a handle on his business comes to me about a box or tools I just bought hes gonna get to know my pistol and my shotgun before he gets a finger on my new stuff.
, Every time I go into Target, I worry that they are going to ask to see a reciept for my socks... [/quote] Dr.J Easy solution to this one. Don't wear socks, or get a life, your choice. Frank
Thanks for the heads up! On another note, I don't think that I could stomach droping 5k on a box. I've had the same stackable roll away for 15 years. My buddy purchased a snap-on roll away from the snap on guy who would drop by the shop he worked at. He just had to have pearl white paint....this bell and that whistle. Over 5 K later and I think they threw in a free adjustable wrench!
Rodknocker is right. When you buy from a tool dealer, the contract clearly states that the merchandise remains the property of the seller until the item is paid for in full.
How do they prove it's the box they sold the guy in the first place? Do they have serial numbers on them?
I Asked My Snap On Guy About This And He Said He Would Not Be Able To Get The Box From The New Purchaser Legally.the Deal Is Between Him And The Original Purchaser.because This Has Happened To Him More Than Once He No Longer Will Sell A Box On Truck Credit,you Have To Apply For A Snap On Credit Card To Purcase A Box.thus When You Dont Pay They Just Send You To Collections And Eventually Write The Box Off Anyhow.there Is No Legal Way For Him To Repo The Box From The New Owner,the Police Can Take It Only If The Original Purchaser (yeah The Guy Who Didnt Pay)reports It Stolen And Can Verify With Reciepts That The Box Is His.****ed Up Yes.........bottom Line If You Find A 5,000.00 Box For 1,500.00 Your Gonna Cook Eggs On It.be Smart Pay A Fair Price And Get Paperwork That States That States You Did So.
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