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Story Of A Race Car

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Tex621, May 17, 2008.

  1. Tex621
    Joined: May 17, 2008
    Posts: 7

    Tex621
    Member
    from Rusk, TX

    In 1962-65 I built and drove gas and fuel dragsters and I will provide a link/picture of the car I drove in 1964. It will be a color picture before the long story about one of the 6-7 cars I built while living in CC,Tx.

    http://members.aol.com/ellisbrasher/CORPUSS.jpg

    Story of labor, dedication and fun!!

    In late '64-'65 my friend Bill Rogers inquired about building a HEMI(R) powered dragster and having built about 4-5, I already had most of the required equipment and material on hand. This first picture is of the roll cage and the bending required, but only tack welded. The car assembly requires bending all four frame members, front axle, roll bar and brace and the steering box mounting bracket. The first car I built, the tubing was hauled from CC, Tx to the Rio Grande valley for bending and it turned out looking about like exhaust tube bending. I then started think about how to make decent bends in 1.5" O.D. X .050" wall frame rail tubing and 1.625" O.D. X .125" wall roll bar and front axle tubing. Actually I always used 1¼" IPS SA-106-B steel pipe for roll bar and axle, it being 1.66" O.D. X .140" wall. I wanted the bends to be about 7" inside bend radius so I started thinking about bending it around a piece of 14 " pipe, but I knew it needed something to prevent it from collapsing/kinking. I solved the collapse/kinking problem by machining a solid steel, egg shaped object that would barely fit inside the frame or roll bar and axle tubing. It was set up on a steel welding table with a piece of 14" pipe about 4" long mounted on an axle vertical to the table so that the tubing could be secured to the 14" pipe and the 14" pipe rotated in order to cause the tubing to bend. To prevent collapsing and kinking the "egg" was welded to a 20' piece of 1/4" pipe and the "egg" inserted inside the tubing to the point where the bending occurs and the 1/4" pipe secured so the "egg" would remain where located while the tubing slides over it during bending. The entire bender was made from 4-5 pieces of scrap and was manually operated; I will draw, scan and post a sketch of the bender if anyone wants to make one, ellisbrasher@aol.com Below is a link to the cage picture:

    http://members.aol.com/ellisbrasher/Shop5.jpg

    I have added this link to show a sketch of the bending apparatus:

    http://members.aol.com/ellisbrasher/Bender3LSGS75.jpg

    The next shot is of the back end of the car. The scatter shield was made from a steel, 1/4" min. thk. 14" pipe cap with a flange welded on to fit the engine bolt pattern. Look close at the bottom and note the clutch release fork shaft that sticks through and through; drilling the 3/4"+ holes on either side for a smooth fit of the shaft ain't very easy. You may notice a new scatter shield pipe cap lying in the background.

    http://members.aol.com/ellisbrasher/Shop4.jpg

    The next shot is also the back and also shows the 392" HEMI(R) block. The object between the scatter shield and rear end housing is a homemade lineup jig made from pipe and machined to fit the main bearing saddles, scatter shield bearing housing and rear end pinion bearing housing. The rear end is an Oldsmobile, junk yard variety that was narrowed by torch cutting and welding. A lineup jig was used to keep it close.
    Some axles were shortened by torch cutting and welding; some were resplined and heat treated.

    http://members.aol.com/ellisbrasher/Shop1.jpg

    This next shot is from the engine to the rear. Here it gives an idea of how the frame tube bends look and keep in mind that no two of the frame rails are alike. The uprights were fish mouthed to fit the rails using a hole saw the same size of the tubing; the fits must be good in order to stick weld .050" wall tubing. I would normally put the first pass with a 3/32"Lincoln Fleetweld 180 rod and then cover with a 3/32"Lincoln Fleetweld 37 rod.

    http://members.aol.com/ellisbrasher/Shop3.jpg

    Next is a shot of the car frame full length and as I recall it was 180" wheelbase. The torsion bar was made from a junkyard VW torsion bar that came laminated by using stacks of 1/8" X 3/8" steel bars, but the normal was to use the correct number to make a 3/4" square bar and then use 3/4" drive sockets welded to the arms bolted to the axle. The trick was to locate and weld the sockets on to get both sides built with the same setting on each arm.

    http://members.aol.com/ellisbrasher/Shop2.jpg

    The next is the front end and lots of hours in hand making each component including wheels; hubs machined from solid aluminum 3.5"diameter bar so as to accept tapered roller bearings, spokes were intended for wheel chairs and the hub caps were freeze plugs. The spokes were installed and tightened using a dial indicator so that very little balancing was needed. Negative camber was about 3 degrees and caster about 30 or so. I still have the spoke hole drilling jig.

    http://members.aol.com/ellisbrasher/FE1024X768X150.jpg

    Next is a shot of the car on a borrowed trailer for the first time and I think it went to the old Houston track on the Gulf Freeway. As I recall the car ran 3 runs at 215+. The guy with the white hat on and with the big bulls eye is the owner/driver. Any doubts he could get in it.

    http://members.aol.com/ellisbrasher/Trailer1.jpg

    Next shot appears to be a very important conference; the two guys with writing on the T-shirts are the co-owners; guy with the shades is Blackie Blackard (RIP), Blackie. I took the picture, but don't know where, probably Houston. I think the guy with the funny looking hat is Tom Crowley who I built a car for which appears on the near side in the match race 2 pics. below. The guy leaning on the rollbar is present day starter Rick Stewart; I showed him that picture at Houston in '06 and he got laugh out of it. He was running the old Houston track at that time

    http://members.aol.com/ellisbrasher/Track1.jpg

    Next is a 2 out of 3 "match" race between Gary Watson, near side and Bill in his first ever and Ford powered race car. These "match" races were like the WWF in that no one ever won the first 2 and back then the money was slim pickins.
    The race was at old Rodd Field at CC, Tx where I and many others saw their first ever big time racers that would come and put on 2-3 exibition runs, the likes of Garlits, Eddie Hill and the twin Pontiacs, Bobby Langley's SCORPION and once with an aluminum channel framed car, Bob Sullivan in Pandemonium and of course half a dozen locals.

    http://members.aol.com/ellisbrasher/BRGW4LS75.jpg

    Next is Bill on a run at Victoria, Tx, I think, and at Victoria Bill hit the ET/MPH lights etc. and laid the right half of the front axle back about 30 degrees, had to cut it off and install a new end.

    http://members.aol.com/ellisbrasher/BRVICLS75.jpg

    Next is Bill and Blackie waiting in the push to start line; I think at Green Valley near Fort Worth, Tx.

    http://members.aol.com/ellisbrasher/BRsit4LS100.jpg

    Next shot is probably at the Green Valley Spring Nationals which Bill won over the best diggers in Texas. The race was billed as a $5000 dollar race which was probably more than the cost of Bill's car. There was much torn up equipment at the race with two cars becoming entangled at about 200 mph and the Cortines car flipping 7 times, but he walked away.

    http://members.aol.com/ellisbrasher/BRFWLS75.jpg

    Last is a little about the Green Valley race and win. Hope you enjoyed this little dab of drag racing history and one of my biggest regrets is I never spent the time or money to photograph things I have seen since seeing my first ever drag race at Halls, Tn. in 1957 or so where I saw what would later become the "Tennessee Boll Weevil" get beat by Lewis Carden's SBC, NHRA record B gas dragster. A friend and I pulled the Boll Weevil trailer back to Memphis to Ray Godman's home where we met him and I first learned of him being in a wheel chair.

    http://members.aol.com/ellisbrasher/BRG4V8X6X150.jpg

    Here's a couple more made from slides dated Aug, '66.

    http://members.aol.com/ellisbrasher/BCR8x6x2.jpg

    http://members.aol.com/ellisbrasher/BCF8x6x2.jpg
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  2. randydupree
    Joined: May 19, 2005
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    randydupree
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    from archer fl

    wow!some good stuff here! thanks!
     
  3. 85-percent
    Joined: Apr 5, 2005
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    85-percent
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    Thank you, Tex! Very generous of you to share your awesome accomplishments with all of us. It's awesome you were in the middle of such a cool era!

    wish i coulda lived through what you did....

    -90% Jimmy
     
  4. falconmad
    Joined: Sep 21, 2005
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    falconmad
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    Thanks for sharing great story and nice pictures!!!
     
  5. Dirty2
    Joined: Jun 13, 2004
    Posts: 8,902

    Dirty2
    Member

    Very nice ! Thanks for sharing .
     
  6. Ole don
    Joined: Dec 16, 2005
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    Ole don
    Member

    Thank you Tex, for the neat pictures of a time that is gone forever.
     
  7. FunnyCar65
    Joined: Mar 11, 2007
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    FunnyCar65
    Member
    from Colorado

    Good stuff there's alot of great racing history in Tx. that's still untold.
     
  8. The37Kid
    Joined: Apr 30, 2004
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    The37Kid
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    WELCOME to the HAMB! Thanks for the intro, one of the best I've read. That egg in the tubing is a great trick.
     
  9. 48fordnut
    Joined: Nov 4, 2005
    Posts: 4,215

    48fordnut
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    Thanks for sharing, and from some one from the day, you ain't no fng. :)
     
  10. KING CHASSIS
    Joined: Aug 28, 2005
    Posts: 1,864

    KING CHASSIS
    Member

    VERY COOL! I have seen your stuff on different sites before. It is always good to see. Really like how you manderel bent your tube. That is very ingenius. You have any dragster stuff left laying around?
     
  11. sodbuster
    Joined: Oct 15, 2001
    Posts: 5,057

    sodbuster
    Member
    from Kansas

    Very cool........Thanks for sharing your story's with your photos..........there is nothing like "tires smoking" from the line.

    Chris Nelson
    Kansas
     
  12. Teach us how to make these...

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  13. my new favorite thread..
     
  14. jangleguy
    Joined: Dec 26, 2004
    Posts: 2,668

    jangleguy
    Member

    Great stuff Tex - thanks!
     
  15. FiddyFour
    Joined: Dec 31, 2004
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    FiddyFour
    Member

    WOW

    Welcome to the HAMB Tex. i love the bender. low buck but spot on, and the pipe cap for a scattershield is genius as well
     
  16. zman
    Joined: Apr 2, 2001
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    zman
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    from Garner, NC

    now that's a helluva intro... welcome, I've learned a lot from you already....
     
  17. Malcolm
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    Malcolm
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    from Nebraska

    Wow... that is so cool! Thanks for sharing this history with us.

    Malcolm
     
  18. Conder
    Joined: Jan 16, 2005
    Posts: 982

    Conder

  19. So where is Bill Rogers now? I used to live just about four blocks from him when he was still at home with his parents. We drag raced at the same time frame he did, but quit much earlier. We quit, for the most part, in 63 and stopped altogether in 65. How can I contact Bill?
     
  20. Big Dad
    Joined: Dec 20, 2005
    Posts: 4,832

    Big Dad
    Member

    WOW !!!!!

    Welcome to the HAMB !!

    I'll be waiting to see / read more .. THANKS !
     
  21. Rolleiflex
    Joined: Oct 25, 2007
    Posts: 1,346

    Rolleiflex
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    Cool post! Thanks!
     
  22. I love that huge pipe cap.

    Where is it now?
     
  23. Greezy
    Joined: May 11, 2002
    Posts: 1,440

    Greezy
    Member

    Welcome to the HAMB and thanks for sharing the history.
     
  24. I SMELL SMOKE
    Joined: Mar 6, 2008
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    I SMELL SMOKE
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    wow!!! that was some good craftsmanship and what a awsome history leson
     
  25. krooser
    Joined: Jul 25, 2004
    Posts: 4,584

    krooser
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    I like the eleborate shop this car was created in...as are many HAMB members rides.

    Great stuff...
     
  26. Tex621
    Joined: May 17, 2008
    Posts: 7

    Tex621
    Member
    from Rusk, TX

    Folks, I am overwhelmed by your kind remarks, thanks very much. Someone inquired about making the spoke wheels; not real hard to do if you have access to a lathe, know how to use it and have patience. As I recall the rims were 17" motorcycle.
    I have a story and pictures about the Ford Boss 500 nitro motor that I could post, but the Ford boys might not like very much. IMO it does tell the truth about the motor.
    I also have a very long and dry story dealing with "LONG VS SHORT" connecting rods that would probably make Smokey turn over in his grave.
    Plus, I have a few shortys, like a spoof on "How the Dodge Boys Cheated".
     
  27. Greezy
    Joined: May 11, 2002
    Posts: 1,440

    Greezy
    Member

    Do tell, we need more stuff like this. Especially now there are alot of dragsters being built right now.
     
  28. stude_trucks
    Joined: Sep 13, 2007
    Posts: 4,754

    stude_trucks
    Member

    Man, this post is fantastic! Very cool, Thanks! I personally would love to hear/see more.
     
  29. FiddyFour
    Joined: Dec 31, 2004
    Posts: 9,024

    FiddyFour
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    Tex, I'll second the request for a few stories!Greezy, call me dude! got my digits?
     

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