i'm not a big fan of chromalusion paint, but i need to know if someone else besides dupont makes this kind of paint. i'm trying to match a flame job on a fender on a mustang, and i can't seem to find the correct color, no matter how i hold the swatch. i will be blending the hood and the door but i need to get it somewhat closer than what the chart offers. the customer bought the car like this and has no clue what brand the paint is. plus the shit is $378.00 a fuckin pint! no room for error! any input would be greatly appreciated. thanks guys.
could it be the basf version...? my buddy at the paint store said that the chromabase blended pretty good....i never did care for the color that everyone around here used ...as it always had a nasty brown effect...some of the aquapurpleen (or what ever it was called) looked pretty cool though.... brandon
We used Sherwin for over twenty years before switching to Du Pont and they had a version of the "prism colors" called "Multitones". 35 colors using one of 6 toners. Almost every paint company had a version of these specialty colors. We were told that the color match was usually good enough that you could get away with panel painting if the car was 1 complete color ?????? Never tried it . Your right the stuff is outrageously priced . Heres hoping that the old painter wasn't a bartender on the side.
Search out a DuPont Paint Dealer that has the computerized camera to match special colors...They'll know what to do and match to a "T" ..The camera is placed right down on you paint ,take a couple of shots..plug camera into computer..and out spits a formula
just got off the phone w/basf and they're crazier than dupont, $1200.00 a quart! i told 'em to send me color samples anyway because that's my main concern, and sikkens has limited colors also, i'll get chips tomorrow. i got a call into sherwin, have'nt gotten back to me yet. anyone else?
youll never get it to match the rest of the car, just go ahead and redo the entire flame job. i have shot color shifts and no matter what they say its hell to try to patch any of them if you do not have left over paint.
i'm not sure i can do that because whoever painted it went over the factory red, instead of black, like you're supposed to do. they did get good coverage but you can see a hint of red at certain angles, it's just the green shade in the gold i can't match. thanks.
Alsa has added those chameleon colors to it's lineup. Probably won't help,but... And it just dawned on me......I've seen that stuff at O'Reilly's in, I believe spray bombs. You said it was a flame job----maybe done with cans??? Just a thought as I grab at straws....
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Just about everybody has some form of color shift paint. PPG, Dupont, House of Kolor, Sikkens, Sherwin Williams, Alsa, Diamont, even Matrix. Alsa and HOK even offer the stuff in powder/flake form so you can mix it to the intensity you want, or intermix to get other colors. Problem is, not only is there so many paints, and they're too damned expensive to experiment with, but you seem to have a double problem. If they didn't shoot over black like most manufacturers say to, then there is no way you're going to be able to match it with a color swatch (since the swatch shows the color over black) The only way to be certain is to shoot a test panel over the factory red. That could get expensive in a hurry if you don't get lucky. Since red is opposite on the color wheel than green (mixing the two gets brown) it makes sense that the red base would mess with the green shift, when compared to a sample over black. Unfortunately lostn51 maybe right, reshooting the entire flamejob maybe more cost effective and less mentally taxing under the circumstances.
House of Kolor has the Cameeleon that is a color shift. The spectrophotometer doesn't work well with color shift pigments. I can see where the red would screw you cause none of these pigments cover. The more you apply the greater the color shift. What brand of paint is predominate in your area? maybe try to narrow it down like that. each paint company has several of these flippin flop colors so good luck and may the paint gods grace you.
If you want to save money, see if X-otic Colours has a similar color. You can go online to find a dealer...it is owned by former House Of Kolor engineers (and the quality is just as good)....they mix it "in store", and that will save you some money.
As far as aftermarket color shifts, the above info is dead on. However, if its the stock mustang color shift crap, that stuff (so I've heard) is only available in limited production and you need the VIN to get any of it. And yes, the pricing is that insane.
your pushing shit uphill with a barbed wire stick man, pass on the job or tell him its a full respray.
just wanted to say thanks to everyone, especially hot rod 47, stretch 1320, and dads-53, for their input, and those who offered extra paint they had on shelves, how awesome is that? i did nail it down to a basf color, and thanks to a fellow hamber, i can get this pos job outa my shop! THIS PLACE ROCKS!! thanks guys.
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