It will probably be in the fall before the choke kits are available but a lot of the reports we are getting is that they are starting just fine without them. We have 3 of them on a new small block Chevy package and cold it starts right up with one pump of the accelerator.
They do not have a vacuum line but nor do the 97's we have seen. It might be something that we could make and offer a spacer plate with that provision in it if there was enough call for it.
Kind of a little update since being on here last in that Barry was at the West Coast Custom Show and many commented that they love the look and were reporting good things to him. If you have a conventional small block Chevy we have just released 2 new 98 Triple Deuce Intake packages with one being old skool and the other a little more modern. I have a couple of pics and will see if I can figure out how to post them up.
This is on one of our test vehicles and here it is from the other side. The packages will include everything from the intake gaskets to the carburetors with you supplying your own air cleaners. The Old Skool package has the red fuel lines and chrome fuel block while the other kit comes with a billet fuel rail .
I still think you guys should make that "98" a replacement for the Holley 94 like our roadster has on it's 1951 8BA.....a stock Holley 94. All you need to do is make a model with right side throttle linkage and a vacuum port for the old "Load-o-matic" vacuum advance distributor..........and I'd buy one today.....maybe two of them just to have a spare.
I've included pics of my carb. All I can see on it is a stamp "model 7RT and the ford script on the other side. Not a 97, but you can see the black vacuum advance line. So is it much of an issue of I disconnect the vacuum addvance line going to the distributor? How did they handle advance with the 97?
If you've got the stock load-a-crapic distributor, it's an issue. Most folks tossed the distributor in the bin when upgrading carbs (usually adding more than one - otherwise, no reason to change your 7RT)
You cats seem to be forgetting two things. One, I don't thonk that these carbs CAN be made to look like 97s, 94s or something original anyway. Ever heard of Patent Laws? BG have loosely based their range of carbs on the Holley designs BUT they are not identical and Im betting this is by design due to Patent Laws that are applicable. I stand corrected if I am wrong. Two, a lot are forgetting that we are fortunate that a manufacturer feels strongly enough about it so as to ga about making new carbs with a trad feel altogether. And that goes for ALL performance parts. I think we've been spoiled for choice esp you guys Stateside. Now that's something our hot rodding Pioneers had ZERO of. So think of that next time ya'all wanna rag on a new product before you've even tried it. THIS my gearhead buddies IS the Golden Age of rodding too....we just don't know it yet. We will later in life but we can't see it yet. How many of our hot rodding pioneers actually termed THEIR time the Golden Age of Hot Rodding...? Im betting NONE, they thought it was just something they all enjoyed and did and did'nt think of it as being a "Golden Age" . Most of them would have killed for better GO FAST parts and this has been discussed many times on here. I say good luck to any person who has a go at making speed parts - with a finicky market like this, some may think you're nuts to give it a go hehe. For the record, Id run em on a daily or a closed hood car because yes, I do prefer the older look of 97s or 94s. But that don't mean I hate this product and nor does it mean that it does'nt have a rightful place in the market. At least you have a choice. Some people don't have that choice. Its all about opinions - lets not forget that. Rat
HAHAHAHAHA.................yeah sure. I guess the "Golden Age of Hot Rodding" is rusted out thirty thousand dollar Deuce bodys and $4.50 a gallon gas. I'll bet the the old guys sat around and couldnt wait for the junk yards to dry up so they could spend weekend after weekend searching swapmeet after swapmeet (and coming home with nothing) for a part that thirty years ago they would have tripped over at the local scrap yard. If this is the "Golden Age of Hot Rodding" some one loan me their time machine..................I'll set a course for the Silver Age.
I just got home with my truck being towed because that friggin carb decided to pour as much gas down the intake as possible. Somebody please tell my carburetor that spark plugs don't like to swim in gasoline. I'm ordering a demon 98, no question. And aside from the demon 98 stamp on the front, I actually think it looks better than the original carbs anyhow. I know I know, it doesn't look "retro" but if you actually look at a demon 98, it has a sleeker more curved look as apposed to a more angular boxy look of the 97/94. The way I see it is a 97 might be period correct but a demon 98 suits the overal look of a 50's car/pickup better. And it don't leak, which suits me fine. And regardless of looks, I'd rather drive my truck daily than trailer it to a car show anyhow I know with a demon 98 my intake manifold will stay nice and clean looking, but I've never seen an intake with a 97 on it that didn't look like the carb pissed itself.
hah! wouldn't you know it. Small problem. My original carb had the throttle linkage on the passenger side, while it appears the demon has it on the driver side. I think the throttle shaft rotates opposite as well. Any ideas how to work around this?
On their website, bg touts the demon 98 as a replacement for the 94 and the 97. I picked up one, and didn't realize until I got it that the linkage was on the oposite side as my 94. But looking at pictures of 97's I think the demon is oposite to that as well because it looks like the 97's and 94's had the linkage on the same side (passanger). I'm with you on the vaccum port though. I'm going to fabricate a simple "cross-over" linkage and swap out a distributor with a centrifugal advance like an msd. BG says that you need to set your initial advance at 10 degrees instead of 5 as normal, so you'd have to adjust your distributors advance as well, which I don't know how to do on those old stock vacuum advance distributors, which makes a distributor swap even more compelling.
At this time there are no plans to change the baseplate machining process to incorporate this. Most of the older stuff used manifold vacuum to begin with which is what we kept in mind when originally designing these.
hell just squirt gas all over them and they will blend in ! and you could sand the demon logo off . Holley is really missing the boat not making a modern version of the 94`s
well i guess all i have to say is i drive a 63 thunderchicken with a factory ford tri on it and i just recently got a 6x2 edelbrock for my 406 and i have to say i honnestly wouldnt consider running anything other then the demons for the pure and simple fact of function and the most important fact SPEED!!! MORE CFM GO FAST EVERYWHERE!!!! i may be just a young buck but it seems to me a lot of so called traditional true hot rodders may be losing their way. dont get me wrong looks are very important but ive always considered being faster then the kid down the street the more important factor in why i absolutely love hot rodding. my friend has a 39 for pickup that "traditonal" and i leave him for dead granted my car isnt entirely period i but i havent found a single person yet that knows the tape deck isnt factory or that a 63 hardtop didnt come with a tripower. lets be honnest its all about the "WOW" factor rarely does anybody walk up to a car and go sorry your car sucks because its not period correct and if you really want to nit pick it and be a dick unless it 100% absolutely original there is no period correct because your all using new modern screws nuts and bolts so...i guess what im getting at is cant we all just get along?
jd2a7x - please go here: http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=18 read this: http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44274 then post an intro in the first forum I'd also suggest you relax a bit, take a peek around, and see what this place is all about before spouting off.
my opinion is my opinion i said nothing offensive everybody else here seems to feel free to voice thier opinions i did the same if you dont like it go complian on the internet somewhere else where people might care last time i checked the whole point of a fourm is to provoke disscussion and debate
FYI dude, when a well respected HAMBer like Flat Ernie gives you advice on how to conduct yourself on the HAMB, take it. It'll save me from having to post umpteen dozen Liberace pics.
You're a classy piece of work, kid. Way to bash our beloved Flat Ernie your first day out. Oh, and you must be pregnant because you're missing your periods. Grow up. Respect our community and we'll respect you and treat you fairly. If you want to act like a dick and tell one of our most prestigious and helpful members to go "complain somewhere else", then you can go screw yourself. You don't know what you're talking about or who you're talking to.
Interesting marketing considering this isn't a carb most originality minded guys would run and it should attract retro rod guys with a modern component mindset. I haven't gotten around to buying yet, but I plan to run them in a tri-power config on a slant 4 Pontiac with an Offy log...
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