Hupmobile? Gauge Identification Help?

Does anyone know what these gauges are out of originally?
and what year they were used?

they are stamped stewart warner on the back
there is one stamping ending in "B7" which dates it to 1934 or 1958?
they seem too old for 1958 but too new for 1934??

thanks
Zach

 

I'd say the 1934 is correct, and guess a higher-end car. Maybe some Packard-ish odd car.

 

thanks
the "H" in the middle is really throwing me

i took a risk and bought them last night on e-bay so im hoping they actually are old (1934)....and NOS!

 

hupmobile? hudson??

with a date code of 1934 they probably would have been on a 35 model year car.

 

A hunting technique:
Go to Google Image search. Click on "advanced" to get the good search screen.
Put the make you are going to look for on the top line, on the "or" line put in years of interest, 1934 1935 here...you can try variants with dash, dashboard, dash board, instrument panel, etc. or just dig in the sites that appear. With many cars, like Packard especially, you need to search a lot because there are several totally different series per year. I am dimly remembering a cl***ic with two coves on the dash, instrument cluster the shape of yours and glove box of same shape...but cannot connect to name.

 

i have a large list of gauge numbers. if you can find any numbers pm them to me and i'll look them up.

 

thanks everyone
they dont look like the hudsons from the era that ive seen

bruce, i'll try the advanced...ive been using the generic one for a few days now trying to figure them out
took the rick that they were 1934 not 1958 and kinda paid a pretty penny for them
figure they'd look good in a 35 ford


flat top the numbers i can see in the e-bay pics look like
44732 B7 on the oil pressure gauge
and 59(something?)AS on the speedometer

theres an X over the stewart warner logo's and a bigger B7 stamped on the panel that the gauges are in

also it has the spiral wrapped temp sender tube if that makes any difference
thats one of the main things that made me think its not '58 as i believe they all went to electric temp by then

thanks alot
Zach

 

If the cross bar of the H is an arrow it's from a Hupmobile. My 32 Hupp had the arrow cross bar on the H radiator ornament. It was a Raymond Lowey trademark. Brian

 

thanks!!!
i just found a 35 hupmobile add with a similar H
so my guess is 1935 hubmobile?
i just cant seem to find any pictures of them in a car....yet!

 

Pretty sure they're Hupmobile
so if anyone has any pictures of mid 30's Hupmobile interiors that would help!

thanks!
Zach

 

I would guess those are from a 8 cylinder car. The sixes generally had speedos that stopped at 80. The B model was a six built from 32-33. Combo guages were used in most of the 30's cars. Models F, I, T, O and N might be candidates. Could be a B too as I've never seen one.

 

I think Huppmobile Aerodynamic is the general term for the several models?? Searc that on image and it actually finds a Hamber who has one. No pics of dash, but at least a potential contact. "Hupster"

 

thanks guys
bruce, I actually PM'd him earlier today, his car doesnt have stock gauges in the pics from R&C Magazine but maybe he has some pics?
we'll see

Zach

 

bttt, evening crowd have any pics?

thanks!

 

That's not Howard Hughes logo is it???

 

These are indeed Hupmobile, but not from the Aero Dynamic (sic), which has elliptical gauges. They look to be from the 1932-1933 cycle fendered Hupp era, possibly Model B, F, I or K. Note the similarity of the H script to the Hupp cycle fender hood ornament.

 

thanks
maybe this is a dumb question
but where does a hupmobile fall in the line of "cl***"

like a Ford is a lower cl*** then a Packard, etc
am I stepping up by putting these gauges in a 35 Ford?

 

In the 1930s Hupmobiles were about 60% more expensive than a comparable Ford or Chevy. Pricewise they were nibbling the bottom end of the Auburn line and came in both 6 and 8 cyl versions.

There was a 1932 Hupp 8 cylinder boat tail speedster up for auction at the Petersen Museum this past November and it was every bit the Hollywood glamour car.

Are you stepping up? Probably.

 

Here's a few more - a 1929, a couple of 1932s and a 1933 - as you may note, a much bigger and more imposing car than Fords of that era.

 

thanks Weasel,
In my opinion a custom was somewhat about making your "little" Ford appear more like the "big cars" of the era. Just wanted to be sure i wasn't stepping backwards, but it doesnt. they look like big cl***y cars.
now to fix the Fords ratio of "body size to top height" so it appears bigger!

 

suhr, I found a pic of the interior of that 32 speedster weasel posted and it definately doesn't have the same dash. it actually looks like an auburn dash. still looking.....

 

thanks
they must be 34 or 35.....maybe 36 if they even made 36's?
the B7 on the gauge is July 1934 according to the roadsters/sw site

Zach

 

heres what i found so far this is from a 33

 

don't think they made a 36. i'm pretty sure even the 35 model year was cut short. started back up in 38-40 I believe.

 

just found a pic of a 38 that uses the same style H for the logo. could be later too I guess

 

wow, wish i had that panel instead!

 

Hupp did produce 1936 models. In September 1935 they simply renumbered the small 1935 518D model, which in 1935 had only been available as a four door sedan, and produced them for a few weeks as transitional or first series 1936 models - notably as the 618D, and introduced a two and a four door Touring model with a humpback trunk. One of these 618D Touring models at least still exists.

The second week of November 1935 Hupmobile then introduced the facelifted and very deco real 1936 models 618G 6 cyl and 621N 8 cyl, with the waterfall grille, Buck Rogers spaceship hood ornament and die cast hood louvers. Unfortunately the company had been all but brought to it's knees by a maverick director - Archie Andrews. He was removed from office and declared insane by the courts, but the damage had already been done and Hupp ceased production on January 18th 1936 and closed the factory until June 1937. When they re-opened in 1937 they started up production of the newly designed but much more mundane 822E and 822H models, as four door sedans only.

The true 1936 618G models were only produced for less than two months and were available as a four door vicky sedan, two door vicky sedan, two or four door touring sedan (humpback) and as a rumble seat or business trunk coupe. The coupes were only actually made in the last two months of production and one prototype convertible was made from a coupe. Less than 2000 1936 models of all types were produced, and maybe 15-20 of these as coupes. Total production figures are quoted as 618G 1553 units (all body styles) 621 N 218 units. There are only a handful of survivors of any of these body styles.

 

This dash reminds me a bit of the later Pierce Arrow dash (36ish). I can't find any pictures so I might be all wet.

 

Geez! I guess everybody is an expert at some topic. Did you have all that in your head?

 

I still find the level of Citroen expertise on here more remarkable...
That Auburn-like dash is really remarkable. Hup in the thirties did a lot of recycling of dies...and Auburn wouldn't have needed those after '34, I think...I wonder if they got Auburn's tooling and just changed the hole punches?? I'd really like to see a clear shot of that...Auburn parts are probably still easier to find than Hupp, though!