Has anybody used the Bendix style backing plate ***emblies that these guys sell? These, along with a master cylinder that allows me to use my existing pedal ***y seems like a good way to convert my 38 to juice brakes. What do you guys know about them?? http://www.mtcarproducts.com/
Rich, I think those are the brakes that Eric at Riley Automotive carries. I bought a pair for the front of my '32. http://www.riley-auto.com/LINCOLN_BRAKES.html A pair of those backing plates for the front & a pair for the rear combined with your stock drums & a dual master cylinder should be about all you would need. I used a '68 Mustang M/C on my RPU with an F-1 pedal ***embly. It worked well. I had a man ask me yesterday if I knew of anyone making an original style M/C but with two reservoirs. He said he had heard of them being made. I had never heard of one though. Call Eric at Riley & tell him what you're working on. He will be glad to help. JH
i second the riley automotive comment. the only adapter i've seen to use your stock peddle ***y was at c.e but it was for '39-'40 and the '41-'48 adapter is for brake pedal only no clutch (not sure about the '39-'40 kit). i made my own adapter for the '47 and used a late 60's chrysler master.
Guys, Thanks for the info. I am a bit confused about useing the original rear drums. Here is what Riley's web site says: "Bolts on to 1932-1948 Ford banjo rear ends (high speed gears available) Use your 1939-1948 rear hubs and drums." So it looks like I can't use my stock rear drums. Can anybody confirm that??
Pretty sure you are going to need '39 rear drums if you want to keep the wide 5 bp. Bob Wilson also makes the reproduction Lincoln backing plates, and I personally believe they are of superior quality. Bob goes so far as to stamp his backing plates with the correct Bendix logo. I've got Bob's brakes on the rear of my Model A and have been extremely happy with them. I believe Eric/Riley Auto was carrying Wilson Welding brakes at one time, but maybe he now carries the GMT line...not sure. You can of course call Eric at Riley Auto, but you could also call Bob Wilson....he's very knowledgable on the subject of Lincoln brakes because he's not just a distributor. He actually puts together his line of brakes with his own two hands, and has been doing so for a number of years now. Bob Wilson ... If you don't get him on the first try, keep trying.
i would pm vaphead and ask but found this article: http://www.rodandcustommagazine.com/techarticles/135_0507_lincoln_brakes/index.html
Bought a set of the MT brakes and all had cracks where the mc mounted apparently due to stamping problem. He replaced them but when I called to discuss, seemed pretty irritated and pretty much hung up on me. I'll go with the Wilson Welding brakes next time around.
The answers are that you CAN use your original pedals when converting to hydraulic brakes, you CAN use all of your 38 drums IF they have not been machined past the limit (12.060") and the MT brakes are of good quality and have the proper upper anchor adjustment to center the shoes LIKE the originals. The 38 front spindles will have to be modified at the tops to clear the ledge on the Bendix brakes; the Bendix wheel cylinders are mounted lower than the Ford/Merc/Lockheed cylinders, so the ledge is lower on the Bendix. The Bendix will install on the rears with no modifications. 37-38-39 drums are all the same and can be used with hydraulics. 36 REAR drums can be used with hydraulics. 36 FRONT drums are offset inward 1" so are not compatible with either Ford/Merc brakes or the new repro Bendix brakes. Original "deep" Lincoln/Bendix front brakes can be used with their original hubs/drums OR with 35 or 36 FRONT hubs/drums. For 32-36 front spindles, the kingpins with the sockets on top must be replaced with a special kingpin/bearing kit to eliminate the socket and move the load-carrying from the top socket to the bottom of the axle. Also requires modification to the tops of the spindles as per above regarding 38 installation. I specialize in doing this kind of stuff, so contact me or post any questions. Happy 4TH! earlyv8garage.qpg.com
Rich, Kennedy's Hot Rod Shop installed a set of juice brakes on a Deuce roadster for a friend a few years ago & bought his kit from the Early V8 Garage. It was good stuff & he was able to use the stock, mechanical, pedal ***embly with the kit to convert to juice. Between the EV8G, Riley, & Wilson..... you can get it done for sure. Richard at EV8G knows what he is talking about. JH
No doubt about that Jim although it appears their parts are different and have different compatibility requirements with the old mechanical brake parts. Dave Wilton at MT tells me I have to use hydraulic hubs and drums with their stuff. From what Richard (EV8G) says that is not the case with others. I'm sure I'll get it all figured out.
This question gets asked VERY OFTEN. check the Tech archives for more info Also note that MT products are NOT self adjusting see my previous posts if you want self adjusting
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