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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Von Rigg Fink, Jul 6, 2008.

  1. Von Rigg Fink
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    Im new to the painting game..I do plan on learning from someone who does this as his job..but thats months down the road,
    any way looking for your advice.
    I bought an IngersollRand 210G gravity feed spray gun..New
    first off..did i buy something thats any dam good?
    second i got it for 25 bucks , so i guess i cant complain..or can I?
     

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  2. theHIGHLANDER
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    The tip size is the thing. 1.4 is pretty universal. Good for heavy clears and solid colors. I find you can "lean it out" when you have a 1.4 to do fine poly colors (metallics) if need be. For $25 you did OK for wanting to get into the gig. I have thousands invested in spray equipment over the years. Have pretty much all of em. I'm currently an Iwata fan. A 400 full size gun and both trigger airbrushes. Look in your Eastwood to see what those are. PM me and I'll help ya when I can.
     
  3. Von Rigg Fink
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    Thanks Highlander..
    is it worth it to buy different sized tips for this one? or no?
    if yes what sizes would you suggest?
    I plan on doing my own body work, priming, and painting for my Model a project.
    was hopeful that i got something i can use for the painting end of things.
    there are always a first time for everything, guess this project will be my learning tool for things i have done very little of or in some cases none of.
    Body work and painting is one of the things i have no experiance in.
     
  4. SlowandLow63
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    For $25 you'd get a HF gun. An IR is way better than that I would ***ume, even though it is not top of the line.

    Tips are inexpensive enough and you would most likely only need one more for primers and such. I use a 1.3 in my topcoat gun and 1.7 in my primer gun, both SATAs. The 1.7 is small enough to lay out a surfacer/sealer well, but big enough to still lay out some thicker stuff.
     
  5. HOT ROD DAVE
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    very informative guys, keep it coming

    i bought a gravity fed from napa about 3yrs ago and didnt know that their was diff tip sizes, have to go look at mine

    but i use the **** out of it
     
  6. flamedabone
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    Tips are not always easy to find for low end guns. (no offence..) Sometimes you are better off buying another gun with the tip you want already in it.

    If you could score another of those Ingersols with a 1.8 tip you would be ****tin in tall cotton. A 1.8 will lay down high build primer nicely.

    Good luck, -Abone.
     
  7. 57JoeFoMoPar
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    Probably a good bet on the gun. You gotta start playing better guitars though man. Washburn?
     
  8. jon_p
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    Looks like a solid gun for $25. I'd second the suggestion to get another gun with a larger tip (1.7-2.0) for primers if you can find one on the cheap. Once you get to laying down the super-build primers it will be a huge benefit (less coats, better texture, less overspray).
    Just keep the gun clean and you should be able to do a lot of painting with that thing for years.
    If you don't spray for a living, don't worry about the gun as much as what you are doing with it. I've seen some people spray really ****py jobs with my Iwata, and I've seen some standout work with a gun under $40. Just focus on spraying correctly and you'll be fine.

    jon
     
  9. Von Rigg Fink
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    lol..good eye..its my beater guitar. never worried about it getting bashed.
    my 2 faves are a G&L strat, and my Gibson hollow body electric..

    I will be lookin for that 1.7 or 1,8 tip..i might even have one at work on another ingersoll..or devilbiss..would they still be the same thread and diameter?
     
  10. SlowandLow63
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    No way to say for sure. Many tips vary in style, size, shape, etc. even between models from the same brand. I have 4 guns and none of the tips interchange.
     
  11. Von Rigg Fink
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    dammit..that will probably be my luck..whats a tip worth $$??
    do all brands use the same numbering system?
     
  12. jon_p
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    Highly doubtful. most of the gun makers use completely different designs (different needles, tips, threads, etc.) even from model to model. I always liked to recommend the devilbiss finishline guns. you could buy different tips for about $15-$20 and keep the same needle. but the gun runs over $120. If you want to splurge for another primer gun, I'd say go back to where you picked up the Ingersoll and get another w/ a bigger tip.

    jon
     
  13. Von Rigg Fink
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    I would do that in a heart beat, knowing what i know now.
    But as my luck would have it. I bought the only one that this guy was selling. It was brand new in the box never opened and never used..guess I cant kick myself too hard , for 25 bucks eh?
    maybe i will just spend the money on the next gun that i saved on this one..that way i have a very small detail and "jambing in" gun ( another one i own) this one and one with the 1.7 or 1,8 tip..why not have em all ..right?
     
  14. jon_p
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    Careful.... It's a slippery slope. :D I've seen painters that like to pick up a gun here and there. then they have a 8ft. wire running across the shop filled with guns. But I still use my cheapie taiwan knockoff to spray with on occasion.
    good luck!

    jon
     
  15. Von Rigg Fink
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    thanks jonP.. i only plan on having these 2..or maybe now 3 due to the tip size issue..should get anything i need painted ..i am no pro-painter..just a hot rodder on a budget. And plan on doing my own coatings because i cant afford the pro's prices. Im betting i will be in for an education as to why they can get what they charge for painting..but what the heck, i need to learn something new
     
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  16. SlowandLow63
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    Yep. They're not much. However in your case they might cost as much as the gun!

    I also second Devilbiss. They have Startingline guns that start around $100 with different size tips, 2 or 3 gun kits, etc. Check out SprayGunDepot.com for more info.
     
  17. Nekronomicon
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    I agree with highlander, IWATA is the ****. I have an iwata 400 and my mate uses the WB 400...WB being water base and he reckons they atomise the paint alot more.
     

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