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New Traditional Hot Rod Event- Make it Happen?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by JimA, Jul 22, 2008.

  1. JimA
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    The best way I can express it without giving away all the details is to relate the concept to magazines- Let's say many events already exist that match up to just about EVERY automotive ***le from Hot Rod, Rod & Custom, Hop Up, Street Rodder, Goodguys Gazette, Rod & Kulture and yes- even Ol' Skool Rodz- but an event that relates best to ONE ***le is completely missing. This event would embrace both the historic side of rods & customs- AND the current state of the traditional world of rodding. That ***le that I don't see an event(s) reflected in is The Rodder's Journal. Again, I'm not going to give away the details- but I want to put the call out to the HAMB family that if someone feels they have the connections to get this started- I have the people ready to book the venues, sign the BIG sponsors, produce a high quality book covering each event and bring in the A-list entertainment and most important, the vehicles. Just needs the initial ground work and the tools to make that happen.
    I've seen so much happen through the HAMB family through the years and only because I completely love and trust this family am I even bringing this up here to speed along the process for something that NEEDS to be done NOW! This would be an event that more HAMBers across the board would enjoy than any other I can imagine- and that's paying HUGE respects to a lot of other great events across the country I already enjoy- but for one reason or another think more can be done for the traditional and history loving hot rod & custom fans.

    Let me know if you have any interest or connections you think would help a great group of behind the scenes veterans ready to put the wheels in motion. Thanks, Jim
     
  2. Roadsters.com
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    "...bringing this up here to speed along the process for something that NEEDS to be done NOW!"

    You can count me a**** those who don't see the need for anyone to hurry, unless they're a**** the ones that want to make money from it.

    I think that between the HAMB, the Rodder's Journal (the only magazine I subscribe to), the Lonestar Round Up, the Petersen Museum, the L.A. Roadsters Father's Day meet, the Hot Rod Reunion, the NHRA Museum, Bonneville Speed Week, and a handful of other events and Web sites, things are already pretty well covered.

    There are many of us who feel that the more widely-accepted what we do becomes, the less pure it is, and the less fun it is for those of of who have been doing it all our lives. Whatever new event is organized, the more commercialized it is, the less it will interest us.

    Dave
    http://www.roadsters.com/
     
  3. Bad Bob
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    WOW! Wasn't expecting that!
    I'm willing to help out in any way I can....FOR FREE!
    Contact me,Jim. You know I love this sort of thing. Even if was just for HAMBers,it would still be really cool.
    Don't think it would take away from any of the shows you mentioned,Roadsters.com.
     
  4. JimA
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    That was helpful. Name me ONE event that the HISTORY of Hot Rodding and Custom Cars are FULLY recognized and appreciated? An event that does NOT allow a beautifully restored piece of hot rod history get slapped in the face by what's called a '32 Ford on a a giant roulette wheel. Also not an event that sees a few hot rods sit in the dirt next to the race track while one form of racing is highlighted by modern versions of race cars run down the track. I'm talking about a full high-cl*** celebration of the history and an event that puts those cars FIRST- not just as a sideshow to the all-around circus modern builds. That's fine if you feel everything you could EVER need is already produced, but there is definitely room for something new and improved.
     
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  5. JimA
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    For those that do not see the merit of this idea my "plan b" is to show up to various towns and allow fans like Dave to kick me in the nuts IN PERSON for $100 a shot. ;) Thanks, Jim
     
  6. Roadsters.com
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    If I can do it while you're holding that copy of Rod & Custom with the red Street Beasts '34 coupe on the cover, I'm in for 200.

    Your friend,

    Dave
    http://www.roadsters.com/
     
  7. JimA
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    That was produced before my time there so you'd have to get "Scribe" to hold that one.
     
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  9. Regal Beagle
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    amen to that...
     
  10. Weasel
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    Which brings up the unasked question, is this intended to be an event where the participants are expected to pay an entry fee to stroke their egos? If so include me out. If the L.A. Roadsters can put on one of the most *****in' shows out there and not charge the qualifying participants, then so can others.
     
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  11. Carbs & Chrome
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    Oh I like plan A as long as that is how it goes down. I have had thoughts about why something like it doesn't happen.

    Even most of the venues held "sacred" in the past have become very commercialized in my opinion.

    Honestly I am bored with alot that is out there right now... That being shows, videos, TV, print, etc.

    I hope it works out Jim.

    Of course depending on the day plan B might put a smile on my face too! :D
     
  12. how about a show with nothing but trad styled ford falcons...?
     
  13. JimA
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    Looks like Plan B is in effect! I'll let you all know when I'm in town- and seeing how concerned you all are with the monetary side of all this rather than the historic celebration or rods & customs I'll give you all a discount just so you don't think money is my main concern. ;)

    I don't know how you guys are connected, but I have had to GLADLY PAY for all the events and magazines you listed.
     
  14. X38
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    I'm with Dave.
     
  15. jimbo....

    i'm trying to grasp the scope and gravity of what you're talking about...

    are we talking about a g-g-g-good-guys type event, or something less grand in scale...say...primer nats?
     
  16. Regal Beagle
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    Let everyone "celebrate" rods & custom at the favorite event of their choosing...we all have reasons for attending the event we do...no need to force feed a "high cl***" event just to try and prove traditional cars are worthwhile....we all know they are! No need for some gala to tell us what we all already know. And as for plan B, count me in!
     
  17. JimA
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    AWESOME! So that's at least 4 or 5 people that are not AT ALL interested in seeing the best historic hot rods, customs, race cars and special performance vehicles and the legends of the sport gathered in one place and given the full respect they are due rather than take a side spot to million dollar creations that will be forgotten tomorrow. Please elaborate as much as possible why this is a bad idea beyond the fact that the possibility exists for someone to make money after all the hard work to make it happen. That was a major complaint of a bunch of people not willing to pay 12.95 when the Rodders Journal first arrived- but that just separated the truly loyal from the pat time enthusiasts.

    I saw an advanced copy of the next issue of TRJ today- and I'd have to say that if cost $100- an issue it will still be a bargain to me- but I guess I'm a little more afflicted than some.
     
  18. 5wbomber
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    im in Jim........ that would be so cool. no junk. no "fake".....just nice traditional cars....id pay.

    roadsters.com..........You dont get it. he's triing to make things MORE pure, getting the **** weeded out.... fathersday show was a buncha fibergl*** easter eggs anyways...........duh.
     
  19. X38
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    Or Pebble Beach style?
     
  20. JimA
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    I'm thinking this just aint the right place to discuss this- I think there is a "rat rod" or Street Rod event EVERY weekend of the year and I don't hear anyone complaining.
     
  21. JimA
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    Takes a 20 year old to "get it"- thanks man.
     
  22. X38
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    Well....who gets to be the door ***** and how does it work? The HAMB is a "trad' site but when you look at the 'show us your rides' threads and what gets posted in the 'cool photos' thread, you'd be forgiven for thinking this is a different site. And I think it's very well spelt out in the 'READ THIS FIRST' section but look what happens.

    You'll need good police and some kind of strict definitions.
     
  23. 5wbomber
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    Jim............19....not 20 yet :)
     
  24. Regal Beagle
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    Yeah Jim...where are you going to draw the line? Are you talking a cutoff year? Do certain items disqualify traditional? I've seen some fibergl*** "cookie cutter cars" with a vintage or "traditional look. So what is alowed and not allowed? Radial white walls? Four doors? Brookville '29's on American stamping rails? Tri-Year Chevies? Mustangs? Super Bell Axles? Vega boxes? How do you expect to keep things so firmly traditional when the very defintion of tradition and historic has so many points of view?
     
  25. JimA
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    Well, it won't be a deal where people tell you at the gate whether you car qualifies as "traditional" or not- that's not for anyone to decide or police. The center core event is an INVITATIONAL of the best historic rods & customs (properly placed and a learning experience more than a bunch of cars corralled in a fairground)- with a separate area for spectator cars like the L.A. Roadster show.
     
  26. JimA
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    Sorry man, I guess you just act a lot more mature than most ;)

    Every time I travel people ALWAYS tell me I'm a lot younger than they expected- I just sound like a cranky old a-hole on the internet!
     
  27. John Denich
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    Jim, I am in what ever you need, sounds like a great idea!

    John
     
  28. JimA
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    Thanks- anyone else that understands what I'm talking about please feel free to add me to your friends list and I'll keep you posted without ruffling any feathers of those who see no room for improvement. Thanks Jim
     
  29. jimmski...

    you get flustered easily.

    the comparisons i was making in regards to scope and scale were just that...scope and scale...not the TYPE OF CARS.

    Goodguys events are HUGE
    primer nats are well attended and maxed out but not HUGE
    LARS has its own scope and scale

    thats what i'm getting at.

    how BIG a show are we talking?

    are we talking about a hall at the convention center, a high school football field in south gate, a 'fairgrounds' event, etc....

    i'm all about it bruddah, just looking for a little more insight...

    i like the idea of an invitational. thats rad.
     
  30. 53chevy
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    I'm really tired of the US vs. Them type of car show. The Best car show that I went to was the Anti-Blessing. Vendors were few and were well rounded in varity. Good music, people and plenty of shade! I think the Primer Nats (Hate the name) is probaly my favorite now, again everything for someone. But, if you were to duplicate a show, I say the Old Style weekend Hands Down! Just my 2 pennys, which isn't much these days (hahahaha!) Good Luck though!

    Ken
     

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