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Ford courier pickupmade into a 34 woodie?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by garybayless, Jul 29, 2008.

  1. garybayless
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    Has anyone used all the frame/running gear from a 75 or so Ford Courier pickup into a 34 Ford with fibergl***/metal parts. It appears to me the frames are close and it should work.
    I have a 34 cowl/windshield and have 34 fenders/ running boards on the way.
    Anything to look out for.
    Appreciate your time...
    Gary :confused:
     
  2. alchemy
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    Close counts in horseshoes and hand grenades. Sounds like a cobbled mess. Do you have outstanding fabrication skills?
     
  3. LANCE-SPEED
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    Horse shoes, hand grenades and getting laid!
     
  4. Bruce Lancaster
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    You need to find someone with a complete '34 and look it over. Notice how body fits over frame...notice how front fenders attach to front of frame. Figure out how that stuff can attach to a frame not dimensioned almost exactly like a '34...
    Body could be adapted to a narrower frame by some sort of channeling...fenders border on impossible.
     
  5. hotrodjohnny77
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    I would think the courier would be more rare than the 34!
     
  6. 38plymouth
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    I may be wrong but I don't think he was asking if it would bolt right up. He asked if anybody had tried it before. I haven't, but if it appears close then follow it up a bit more and maybe you'll be successful and the first. Good luck and let us know what you find.
     
  7. alchemy
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    I have been around this hobby long enough (over 30 years) to see plenty of cobbled together frame swaps. I know you can successfully swap on a "big-bodied" car or truck like a '49 Chevy, but a smaller car like an early Ford is just not gonna happen.

    I read into his question that he had no real experience with this sort of thing. If he had enough experience doing big fabrication, he probably wouldn't have asked for help in the first place.

    Hopefully he will come back and tell us what his background is.
     
  8. Phil1934
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    There was someone selling a fibergl*** '36 pickup to go on a Courier ch***is a few years ago and it looked good. I'd say it would work.
     
  9. Section 8
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    A 75 Ford Courier was bulit by Mazda and has about 70 horsepower.
     
  10. 38plymouth
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    Yes, im sure he will come back and seek your approval. If approved we will ***ist further. However, I'm sure he will be discouraged and seek more "traditional methods." Thats what Hot Rodding is all about, or is it? What do you suggest he try, in your 30 yrs you must have seen something that you can help him with.
    BTW, did you always have 30 yrs experience or did you have to learn it. Maybe he would like to learn as well.
     
  11. Unkl Ian
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    I've seen the '36 on a late model ch***is,looked decent.
    Not sure if a '34 would be quite as convincing.
     
  12. Isn't the wheelbase of a 34 Ford around 112"? The Courier was 104" I believe. You may have to shorten the body or stretch the frame.
     
  13. alchemy
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    I think I'll bow out now and let you take over. You seem to know how it's done.

    But, as my parting comments, let me add that this whole hobby is about having fun and being "cool". Don't tell me that you build a car for your own, and not care one bit how it looks or if others approve of it. If you did that I bet you'd be laughed out of the first cruise spot and never be seen again. We all have a notion of what a hot rod is supposed to look like, and don't want to embarr*** ourselves by creating an ugly piece of junk. I was just trying to give him the benefit of my experience. If we didn't care what our cars looked like, we'd just build Plymouths.

    (that last bit was just a friendly jab, no real spite meant :) )
     
  14. HOTRODPRIMER
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    34's have a 116" wheel base,,,,

    BTW,,there was no such thing as the small courier trucks when I started building old cars,,,granted,there have been many earlier cars mated with later frames over the years,,,,but very few hit the mark with the outcome.

    Can it be done,,,sure it can,,,,will it WOW the m***es,,,If you are a first cl*** craftsman and willing to devote the many,many hours it will take to pull it off,,,HRP
     
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  15. booboo
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    i used a currier ch***is under a AMT 40 sedan model once
     
  16. spudshaft
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    I wouldn't likely do it, but I can see the attraction in using what's available. Sell the truck frame and find something else.
     
  17. moefuzz
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    Is that 30 in dog years???


    :D



    .
     
  18. Unkl Ian
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    Don't try anything you don't see in the glossy magazines. :rolleyes:
     
  19. rdachsdog
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    from michigan

    Around here all the Courier frames rusted out and the trucks fell into 2 pieces. Seen 4 of them do that, one sat in the corner of a shop I worked at years ago, it was sagging just a little in the middle and one day we walked in and it was totally collapsed! Maybe sell the Courier frame to a Courier restorer? [Is there such a thing?] Probably get enough to get a start on another frame.
     
  20. garybayless
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    I actually have constructed complete Porsche racecars from the gound up over the years. Just wanted to know the nature of the folks responding here, I guess...
    Seriously was looking for any insight and not having to make the same mistakes someone has already made
    Thanks
    Gary
     
  21. If you truly have done that then you do not need to ask how to make a silk purse out of a sows ear.
     
  22. kenny g
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    Close counts in horseshoes and handgrenades,but in getting layed
    it makes a mess.
     
  23. ss34coupe
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    34's have a 112 inch wheelbase. Each to his own, but as someone who has built more than one 34 Ford, I would stick with an original style frame.
     
  24. Rocky
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    Me too....I've had couriers in my fleet before. Bad Juju. the inner framerails are most probably full of rust. AS was said earlier, they were very prone to rust-out in the front frame rails. I too have had them collapse completely. Left a bad taste in my mouth.
     
  25. 38plymouth
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    I take you got most of your questions answered then. Looks like you got hamb n eggs, some of the eggs are bitter though. :)
     
  26. woodguy@woodieworks.net
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