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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by theracedude, Jul 30, 2008.

  1. theracedude
    Joined: Dec 6, 2004
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    I want to drill a hole in the input shaft of a mustang II rack but it's hard. VERY HARD.

    What type of drill will cut it?
     
  2. 327-365hp
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    Cobalt, Sears has them
     
  3. S.T.P.
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    There is also a drilling fluid called Mystic Metal Mover. we use it at work to drill stainless it is the ****. Most welding suppily shops have it. If you get some you will wonder what you did w/ out it I swear.
     
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  4. thirty7slammed
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    Your probably goin need a carbide drill, If you don't have acess to a milling machine or a good ridgid drill press I would suggest getting someone who does as carbide drills and mills are pretty brittle if not in a good ridgid setup, and it will be a lot easier to locate the center of the shaft in a milling machine. I would be concerned drilling into a hardened steering shaft, you can easily change the properties of the metal depending on how hot it gets while the machining is done, not to mention how a thru hole can weaken the shaft, good luck.
     
  5. Unkl Ian
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    Carbide will do it.Also fragile and expensive.



    I won't ask why you are drill the hole.
     
  6. Dyce
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    Carbide, slow speed, sturdy setup and lots of oil. Take a file to it just to see how hard it really is. I wouldn't think a steering input shaft would be that hard, but I've never tried to drill one either.
    Jeff
     
  7. dirt t
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    How big a hole and how deep?
    I drill safes opem some stuff at rockwell 90.
    I use carbide drills also have some diamond drills . see if there is a safe tech in your area he might drill it for you. He will charge for the drill bit about $ 25.00.
     
  8. Dyce
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    I just have to ask. After you drill it, do you have to tap threads in this hole? Let me warn you, drilling a hole is easyer than tapping one.
     
  9. Unkl Ian
    Joined: Mar 29, 2001
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    That is a valid point,they are usually toughened,or case hardened.
     
  10. zbuickman
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    cobalt or carbide at a slow speed and use oil!!!!!!!! the bits are brittle and will snap easily. 1/8 " pilot - 3/16 -1/4 - 5/16 -3/8 - you get the idea...good luck:)

    EDIT: oh yeah and push hard
     
  11. mink
    Joined: Oct 4, 2007
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    are you sure it hardened steel you deeling with?
     
  12. dana barlow
    Joined: May 30, 2006
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    Many parts like those racks have a hardend outer [case hardended],but after you get down about .010in. or so it cuts better. Using a grinding wheel to cut though that first layer helps. If your real short on $,it is OK to use a concreat drill,they're cheep but have carbide tip on them.:cool:
    Or just bring it by and we'll do it.
     
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  13. theracedude
    Joined: Dec 6, 2004
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    a mustang II rack has the standard splined input shaft that connects to your steering wheel. a knuckle conects to the shaft and then you install a jam allen screw and jam nut for safety. i wanted to drill a small hole and put a bolt and nut inplace of the jam nut.
     
  14. RichFox
    Joined: Dec 3, 2006
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    If it's really really hard, (Doubt it) you couls always drag out the Yellow pages and look under EDM. That will make a hole for you. Not really expensive either. Sometimes I think my replying to a post is it's kiss of death.
     
    Last edited: Jul 31, 2008

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