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Chevy II Banger Parts

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Speedsterinc, Jul 29, 2008.

  1. Speedsterinc
    Joined: May 27, 2008
    Posts: 211

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    I have been looking for parts for the Chevy II four banger engine? Anybody know who carries any of the parts. Looking for any type of speed parts etc. That sounded like an oxy*****.
    Thanks in advance
    John
     
  2. Phil1934
    Joined: Jun 24, 2001
    Posts: 2,716

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  3. Rootie Kazoootie
    Joined: Nov 27, 2006
    Posts: 8,130

    Rootie Kazoootie
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    from Colorado

  4. brandon
    Joined: Jul 19, 2002
    Posts: 6,382

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    comp or lunati (can't remember which catalog i was just looking at...:rolleyes:) had a couple cams listed... brandon:D
     
  5. stretch 1320
    Joined: Oct 1, 2006
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  6. Model A Vette
    Joined: Mar 8, 2002
    Posts: 1,075

    Model A Vette
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    The chevyII 4 cyl was used in boats. Mercury Marine modified them to displace around 180 cubic inches in some versions.
    They had some dress up parts like alum side cover and valve cover.
    I think they also had some intake manifolds that used bigger carbs.
     
  7. Tricknology
    Joined: Mar 9, 2006
    Posts: 546

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    from DETROIT

    GM STILL builds the Chevy II 4 cylinder engine!

    It is now 181 cubic inches! and it can come fuel injected.

    http://www.gm.com/experience/technology/gmpowertrain/engines/specialized/marine/2009_3000_Marine.pdf



    http://www.gm.com/experience/technology/gmpowertrain/engines/specialized/marine/marine_engines.jsp

    http://www.gm.com/experience/techno...ecialized/industrial/2009_3000_Industrial.pdf

    Specifications​
    Vortec 3000​
    Industrial Engine​
    © 2008 General Motors Corporation
    PRINTED IN U.S.A. 01/31/08​
    GM Powertrain​
    Type: ​
    3.0L I4

    Displacement: ​
    181 cid (2966.59 cc)

    Engine Orientation: ​
    Longitudinal

    Compression Ratio: ​
    10.5:1 (LW6), 9.2:1 (LMX, High CR)
    8.25:1 (LMX, Low CR)

    Valve Configuration: ​
    Pushrod Actuated
    Overhead Valves
    (2 valves per cylinder)

    ***embly Site: ​
    Toluca, Mexico

    Valve Lifters: ​
    Hydraulic Flat Tappet

    Firing Order: ​
    1 - 3 - 4 - 2

    Bore x Stroke: ​
    101.60 x 91.44 mm

    Bore Center: ​
    112.26 mm

    Bore Area: ​
    324.29 cm²

    Fuel System: ​
    MPFI Fuel Rail and Injectors (LMX)
    N/A (LW6)

    Fuel Type: ​
    LMX: Gasoline (MPFI)
    LW6: Propane, Natural Gas

    Horsepower:​
    94 hp (70 kW) @ 3200 rpm (MPFI: Gasoline (LMX))
    Low CR
    93 hp (69 kW) @ 3000 rpm (MPFI: Gasoline (LMX))
    High CR
    73 hp (54 kW) @ 2200 rpm (Natural Gas: (LW6))
    64 hp (48 kW) @ 1800 rpm (Propane: (LW6))​
    Torque:​
    188 lb-ft (255 Nm) @ 1800 rpm (Propane: (LW6))
    178 lb-ft (241 Nm) @ 1600 rpm (Nat. Gas: (LW6))
    172 lb-ft (233 Nm) @ 1800 rpm (MPFI: Gasoline (LMX))
    High CR
    168 lb-ft (228 Nm) @ 2300 rpm (MPFI: Gasoline (LMX))
    Low CR​
    Fuel Shutoff: ​
    OEM defined

    Shipping Weight: ​
    363 lb (165 kg)

    Materials:​
    Block: Cast Iron
    Cylinder Head: Cast Iron with exhaust valve seat inserts
    Intake Manifold: Customer Supplied
    Exhaust Manifold: Customer Supplied
    Main Bearing Caps: 2 -Bolt Cast Iron
    Crankshaft: Nodular Cast Iron
    Camshaft: Indus. Profile Low Speed, High Torque (8-port)
    Industrial Gaseous Fuel Profile (8-port)
    Connecting Rods: Powdered Metal​


    Also check out this all alluminum DOHC 4 cyl from GM for boats

    http://www.gm.com/experience/technology/gmpowertrain/engines/specialized/marine/2009_2400_Marine.pdf
     
  8. Tricknology
    Joined: Mar 9, 2006
    Posts: 546

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    from DETROIT

    MARINE VERSION


    Specifications​
    © 2008 General Motors Corporation
    PRINTED IN U.S.A. 01/31/08​
    GM Powertrain​
    Type: ​
    3.0L I-4

    Displacement: ​
    181 cid (2966.59 cc)

    Engine Orientation: ​
    Longitudinal

    Compression Ratio: ​
    9.2:1

    Valve Configuration: ​
    Pushrod Actuated
    Overhead Valves
    (2 valves per cylinder)

    ***embly Site: ​
    Toluca, Mexico

    Valve Lifters: ​
    Hydraulic Flat Tappet

    Firing Order: ​
    1 - 3 - 4 - 2

    Bore x Stroke: ​
    101.60 x 91.44 mm

    Bore Center: ​
    112.26 mm

    Bore Area: ​
    324.29 cm²

    Fuel System: ​
    N/A (LW6)
    MPFI Fuel Rail and Injectors (LMX)

    Fuel Type: ​
    Regular Unleaded

    Horsepower:​
    143 hp (107 kW) @ 4800 rpm (LMX)
    140 hp (104 kW) @ 4800 rpm (LW6)​
    Torque:​
    178 lb-ft (241 Nm) @ 3600 rpm (LMX)
    177 lb-ft (240 Nm) @ 3600 rpm (LW6)​
    Actual power levels may vary depending on OEM calibration
    and application.​
    Fuel Shutoff: ​
    OEM Defined

    Shipping Weight: ​
    363 lb (165 kg)

    Materials:​
    Block: Cast Iron
    Cylinder head: Cast Iron with exhaust
    valve seat inserts
    Intake manifold: Customer Supplied
    Exhaust manifold: Customer Supplied
    Main bearing caps: 2 -Bolt Cast Iron
    Crankshaft: Nodular Cast Iron
    Camshaft: Marine Profile​
    Connecting rods: Powdered Metal
     
  9. Tricknology
    Joined: Mar 9, 2006
    Posts: 546

    Tricknology
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    from DETROIT

    2.4 ECOTECH,,, ALL ALUMINUM dohc 16 VALVES

    Specifications​
    © 2007 General Motors Corporation
    PRINTED IN U.S.A. 01/31/08​
    GM Powertrain​
    Type: ​
    Ecotec 2.4L I4 VVT

    Displacement: ​
    146 cid (2393 cc)

    Engine Orientation: ​
    Longitudinal/Transverse

    Compression Ratio: ​
    10.4:1

    Valve Configuration: ​
    Dual overhead camshafts

    ***embly Site: ​
    Spring Hill, TN

    Valve Lifters: ​
    Hydraulic roller finger follower

    Firing Order: ​
    1 - 3 - 4 - 2

    Bore x Stroke: ​
    88 x 98 mm

    Bore Center: ​
    95.48 mm

    Bore Area: ​
    243 cm2

    Fuel System: ​
    Sequential fuel injection

    Fuel Type: ​
    Regular unleaded

    Horsepower:​
    173 hp (129 kW) @ 5800 rpm (preliminary)​
    Torque:​
    167 lb-ft (226 Nm) @ 4500 rpm (preliminary)​
    Actual power levels may vary depending on OEM calibration
    and application.​
    Fuel Shutoff: ​
    OEM defined

    Shipping Weight: ​
    273 lb (124 Kg)

    Materials:​
    Block: Cast Aluminum
    Cylinder head: Cast Aluminum
    Intake manifold: Composite
    Exhaust manifold: High Silicon Molybdenum,
    Cast Nodular Iron
    Main bearing caps: Aluminum Bedplate
    Crankshaft: Cast Nodular Iron
    Camshaft: Cast Nodular Iron​
    Connecting rods: Forged Steel
     
  10. Tricknology
    Joined: Mar 9, 2006
    Posts: 546

    Tricknology
    Member
    from DETROIT

    see for pics of chevy II midget engine and the NEW chevy midget engine

    http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread.php?p=899290#post899290
     
  11. Shaggy
    Joined: Mar 6, 2003
    Posts: 5,207

    Shaggy
    Member
    from Sultan, WA

    Cant you put a SBC head on them? I think i might have heard of someone adapting a early hemi head too

    Might be wrong on those though
     
  12. Tricknology
    Joined: Mar 9, 2006
    Posts: 546

    Tricknology
    Member
    from DETROIT

    Fontana does aluminum racing heads for Chevy II and inline GMC 6 stuff

    http://www.fontana-automotive.com/gmc.html

    Fontana/Skinner
    12 Port GMC 6 Cylinder Head
    Specifications:
    Material:
    • A356T6 Aluminum casting
    Combustion chamber:
    • Flat
    • negative 7.0 CC
    Valves:
    • Severe Duty Steel
    • Intake 2.125 x 6.250 x 11/32
    • Exhaust 1.700 x 6.250 x 11/32
    Guides:
    • Aluminum Bronze
    Seats:
    Ductile Iron
    Compe***ion porting:
    All ports Available with additional head bolts
    Superior flow and velocity
    Superior spark plug location

    Other available components:
    Rocker arm ***embly:
    • Needle bearing
    • Offset .170 inches
    • 7075T6 Alloy
    • Ratio 1.75
    • Roller tip
    Intake extenders
    Skinner valve cover
    Skinner head stud kit
    Skinner injector head gaskets:
    • copper
    Push rods
    Roller lifters:
    • Full body diameter, no tie bars
    Pistons
    Wrist pins
    Piston rings
    Steel main caps:
    • Front 2 bolt
    • Centers 4 bolt
    Semi <?XML:NAMESPACE PREFIX = ST1 /><ST1:pLACE>Cam</ST1:pLACE> Cores


    Chevy II 4 cyl.

    http://www.fontana-automotive.com/4cylinder.html
     
  13. tlowe
    Joined: Oct 22, 2006
    Posts: 157

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  14. Count Scrapula
    Joined: Oct 13, 2004
    Posts: 588

    Count Scrapula
    Member
    from Mid TN

    If you're lookin to build HP find yourself a Mercruiser boat intake. They came in 120 hp and 140 hp models. That bieng 153 cu. in. and 181 cu. in. respectively. I found a boat engine that had not been winterized properly and had a cracked block but the head was still good. The little Chevy II engines were only rated at 90 hp. While your at it ****** the intake and cut it down for a cheap solution to a high priced aftermarket one. Here's one I did a while back. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=112313&highlight=I+put+my+intake
    Also zero decking the block and a little cam really wakes the little guys up.
    I spoke with Joe Mondello once and he said he used to build well over 300 hp out of these engines for dirt track guys.
     
  15. Although there have been a couple of old Rod and Custom article, annual No. 9 (pp 64-65), and one other, articles to suggest that the '77-'79 Pontiac Iron Duke was another incarnation of the Chevy II engine, they are a different beast. The simple OHV pushrod design, Chevy "barn" bellhousing, and 4.4 bore spacing were similar, but that's about where it ends.

    I've attached head gasket pics to show the radical differences. And I tossed in a 1999 Corvette LS head just for fun (No, the ten-bolt pattern is way different).

    EDIT: Let's see if I can upload those images without crashing Explorer again...
     

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    Last edited: Sep 2, 2008
  16. 49ratfink
    Joined: Feb 8, 2004
    Posts: 25,195

    49ratfink
    Member
    from California

    I saw this one at Pleasanton Goodguys the other weekend. small block head. the bores line up but you need to play with the bolts a bit.

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  17. 35ratbstr
    Joined: Feb 18, 2006
    Posts: 491

    35ratbstr
    Member
    from Colorado

    The KRP blocks can be ordered inany version and bore spacing to matchthe Pontiac sd head, sbc, sbf, and even the dodge head. theyalso have the standard Chevy bellhousing bolt pattern. they purchased the tooling and rights from GM.

    I have a KRP motor with a Brodix 10x aluminum SBF head. i plan on running it in a T project.
     
  18. Right-on! Sweet car!

    I wonder if anyone has done a Tech Article on redrilling the block -- I've heard it required welding cast iron, so a bit out of reach for most of us.


    Here are a couple more Mercruiser gasket shots...

    I did read that the earliest (77-79) pan gasket may interchange with the Chevy II, though.
     

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  19. hugh m
    Joined: Jul 18, 2007
    Posts: 2,142

    hugh m
    Member
    from ct.

    Also a pretty good source is OpenWheelMarketplace.com,they have a midget racing section,guys are still running the later IronDuke Pontiacs now,and there's still guys using the earlier ones in antiques....lots of stuff out there,just got a later Duke with injection,etc for not stupid money,for my modified T.
     
  20. ray-jay
    Joined: Feb 23, 2008
    Posts: 200

    ray-jay
    Member
    from Buford GA

    How does KRP seal off the intake side of the head where the pushrods are ??

    Thanks
    rj
     

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